Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Jul 17 2020 11:46am)

i personally do not care at all if tearhaunch is/was a good option, the vigor is not only for using to synch, maxing it allows your hammers to go up in damage aswell as charge, its a synergy for both.

if someone wanted to have pissing contests with adam the rest of the ppl were more than capable of going to a new game and continuing the tvt, shit it would probably have been better without hdins neways. but i dont see the pt behind making the most important pally skill unaccessable just because people didnt like confrontation, id rather just get the confrontation out of the way and deal with it when they come than to completely cripple a class, thats like making 120frw the max for zons or making es sorces be 65 block, its just ridiculous and is only fair if you plan to cripple every class.

from what you are saying it just sounds like there was a period of time where a bunch of people who hate paladins had free reign to torture users who enjoyed the class with their other non paladin characters. lol.

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 17 2020 06:31pm)

its a cocktail of reasons, blessed with a memory for stupid shit i can elaborate.

1. prayer dins were a thing to bm out games, not libbys, stupid prayer dins that would try to schwoop for a crit then piss off to regen

2. tearhaunch is and always has been an option, and its not a shitty option either. 70 str is np, has res, frw, etc. and nn str bugged frw as much on libby

3. in an attempt to not become EU rules that were class specific around frw/fcr etc were shunned. so saying x, y, and z get a set amount of rep but libby gets 10 rep, wasn't a good thing according to some.

4. ladder and NL were far more tied, and so a 10 replife limit on pallys meant using pcrowns wasn't viable. or at least you'd need to buy a 10 rep p crown.

5. hard pt medi isn't needed, as youll get a higher level medi off insight and most chars either have insight or an honor with medi. turning a medi + vigor justification into just vigor.

6. vigor isnt needed to synch, just makes synching easier and better

7. adam slammed a lot of people and hvh challenges would happen, prayer din vs prayer din would take hours.



ive always had zero issue with either allowing dins a good amount of rep and no hard pt plus use vigor OR 10 rep or under with vigor hard stat'd. mainly because tearhaunch isnt a bad item.

and i prefer the jawn/break style of dual spirits one side, insight staff, lower str build. just worked better for me than divine build with part.

Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jul 17 2020 12:16pm)

If you charge to act 5, you can fully rep and get a socket quest.

Quote (lld_mayhem @ Jul 16 2020 04:39pm)

Like eop being legal in lld?

Quote (Flameyes @ Jul 17 2020 10:17am)

Lld might actually be fun if people didn’t get so mad about hybrid rws

Quote (Avenged321 @ Jul 17 2020 01:20pm)

Yes, every character getting 1 hit by a grief/grief ww barb is fun.

Quote (Flameyes @ Jul 17 2020 12:17pm)

Lld might actually be fun if people didn’t get so mad about hybrid rws

Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 17 2020 01:14pm)

i mean firstly, we were all like 14 at the time. conflict resolution wasnt exactly a feasible goal lol.

secondly, this never crippled pallys. hard pt vigor, dont hard pt vigor, even run 0 rep. theyre still an A tier build. a good player on an hdin using even just shard and a steel clash can 5-0 many other LLD builds with ease.

and even on a pally with no dmg charms and a staff medi instead of part you can still rek people with charge.

allowing pallys hard pt vigor for more charge dmg takes them from an A tier char to A+ tier char rly.

Quote (herpesfreesince03 @ Jul 17 2020 07:39pm)

Bm. Why do I always get brought up. I’m a charger