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May 6 2019 10:24am
Quote (bonnerf2 @ May 6 2019 10:52am)
I always felt east could have done more to encourage ladder duelers to change to nl after the reset.

Sure they wont be as good and you may get the odd dickhead but worth trying no?

I started lld much later than most by trying to make an 18 bowa on eu ladder. Didnt finish it until nl and a big part of me sticking with lld was how friendly the lvl 18 duelers were on nl to a newb. Obviously i know now east are the same but first impressions can be a bit misleading for you guys haha.


Most of us who do 18s on east are pretty chill. 30s are a different story, most are ok in game but the forums are a hot mess.

And do I get the honor of worst player? Lol
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May 6 2019 10:27am
Quote (ATOMICMAN @ May 6 2019 11:24am)
Most of us who do 18s on east are pretty chill. 30s are a different story, most are ok in game but the forums are a hot mess.

And do I get the honor of worst player? Lol


I have an 18 bowa coming from lad and am actually pumped to use her. Nothing crazy but works.
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May 6 2019 10:38am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 6 2019 04:04pm)
Sackshadow started shit on the forums but was a GM dueler. Roy was less GM but still didn't BM out games that often, and in his era tvt wasn't as popular at lvl 30 so even if you bm'd it wouldn't nuke a game. Jim never dueled. like i've been friends with him for 10 years, i refresh and upgrade his accounts, and i've never in all that time had a single duel with him. not one. lol (except melee, which doesn't count)

when i think of BM games i remember Adam when most people disliked him just synch charge hammer fielding the moor. or Tofu hosting and taking ears. we don't really get that anymore, i guess its because we're not all 12 years old anymore.



we've had some lulls for sure, but we've remained fairly healthy overall. i think some people would be happy if we had a 1v1 game and a tvt game up regularly, but the 1v1 game would devolve into shit talking lol. i honestly think just having 2s, 3s, and 4s consistently is the best. when we struggle to fill out 2s games we will for sure need to recruit. at which time i'll just access more euros!



Roy was a bmer, I remember him whoever he let use his account slamming people with his c/t “FakeBids”. It encouraged me to make a pure charger to return the favor since I saw many folks get raged and s/e.

At this point in time, Paul, Asylum, and Noid (Noidenity) were forging together some nice llds, Ted had a defiance zealer (first I ever seen lol) , Adams punk ass and enjoi were trying to be tough guys on hdins.

Oh and can’t forget excellence/elusive bullying people on his 18 pally that he boasted about being champ for X number of seasons lmao
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May 6 2019 11:03am
Quote (bonnerf2 @ May 6 2019 11:52am)
I always felt east could have done more to encourage ladder duelers to change to nl after the reset.

Sure they wont be as good and you may get the odd dickhead but worth trying no?

I started lld much later than most by trying to make an 18 bowa on eu ladder. Didnt finish it until nl and a big part of me sticking with lld was how friendly the lvl 18 duelers were on nl to a newb. Obviously i know now east are the same but first impressions can be a bit misleading for you guys haha.


When I meet people who seem like they're interested in learning pvp and improving I do take the time to get to know them and gently nudge them towards nl whether I like them or not

I don't know if you've ever tried to lld on east ladder but you don't actually have more than 1-2 ladder llders in the entire season who meet that criteria.
You have some people who are decent but enjoy beating up children on ladder and don't want their opponents to effectively fight back (escl actually has a HLDer in that regard, egardner, who remains #1 dueler on escl simply because all the other duelers don't want to play ladder)
You have a LOT of people who only made duelers to begin with because their bots found a bunch of crap lvl 30 gear that nobody wants to buy
You have some people who make llds because it looks easier than hld (which to be fair is where a lot of the lld community started out to begin with)

I think it's more related to ladder in general. Ladder is a format where you throw everything away almost as soon as you've finished the char so it tends to naturally attract people who are more interested in building chars than getting good at them.

Quote (ATOMICMAN @ May 6 2019 12:24pm)
Most of us who do 18s on east are pretty chill. 30s are a different story, most are ok in game but the forums are a hot mess.

And do I get the honor of worst player? Lol


worst player award is not currently up for debate.
rpg won the title so many years in a row that it's been awarded to him as a lifetime achievment

This post was edited by Worrywart on May 6 2019 11:05am
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Quote (Rikid @ May 6 2019 10:38am)
Roy was a bmer, I remember him whoever he let use his account slamming people with his c/t “FakeBids”. It encouraged me to make a pure charger to return the favor since I saw many folks get raged and s/e.

At this point in time, Paul, Asylum, and Noid (Noidenity) were forging together some nice llds, Ted had a defiance zealer (first I ever seen lol) , Adams punk ass and enjoi were trying to be tough guys on hdins.

Oh and can’t forget excellence/elusive bullying people on his 18 pally that he boasted about being champ for X number of seasons lmao


can't forget i0wa if we're listing tough guy Hdins lmao

yeah those lvl 18 "#1 zealer" champions lol. Elusive then my GS_Controlla
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May 6 2019 11:09am
Quote (thesnipa @ May 6 2019 01:06pm)
can't forget i0wa if we're listing tough guy Hdins lmao

yeah those lvl 18 "#1 zealer" champions lol. Elusive then my GS_Controlla


Oh. If we're listing bm hdins that don't even know how to duel then we can throw distroyall in there too with his "literally charge to the stony field to heal" dins
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May 6 2019 11:11am
Good points Worry. I tried east ladder once towards the end of the season when I picked up gear for a half assed plaguezon from one of those mass botters a few years back. People seemed friendly enough although admittedly very bad. Im not that good but I don't think I dropped a round vs anyone.


Interestingly for me, and I presume for someone like thesnipa, building chars was one of the biggest attractions once I got into LLD. I guess liking to build half assed chars and liking to pick up that 1 item per season on ladder that might start or finish a nl char are completely different, yet both understandable, things.
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May 6 2019 11:15am
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Good points Worry. I tried east ladder once towards the end of the season when I picked up gear for a half assed plaguezon from one of those mass botters a few years back. People seemed friendly enough although admittedly very bad. Im not that good but I don't think I dropped a round vs anyone.


Interestingly for me, and I presume for someone like thesnipa, building chars was one of the biggest attractions once I got into LLD. I guess liking to build half assed chars and liking to pick up that 1 item per season on ladder that might start or finish a nl char are completely different, yet both understandable, things.


yup 100%. i haven't been that into dueling ever, always been more on the theory crafting and building side. like when people ask why i like melee, because it takes no skill to click and hold, you can't make them get why you like math or messing around with 10 different builds and testing if they're the kind of person who just likes dueling. it either appeals to you or you're more of a copy a sticky build and get dueling kind of person.

i love cruising ladder p/c threads just in the hopes that i can catch the one items that is charsi for literally every other players on east except for me just before the OP charsi's it. Like 5 people say "that's shit, charsi" and my 10 fg offer looks tasty. meanwhile i'm getting a really solid lvl 12, 24, or 39 dueler item.

trevor got me a god tier rare poi dagger ring that way. it's like 10fcr/9str/xxar/poi charges / replife / single res. i'll send you a pic to be jealous of :)

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 6 2019 11:17am
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May 6 2019 11:30am
Quote (JonBmx @ 6 May 2019 09:27)
I have an 18 bowa coming from lad and am actually pumped to use her. Nothing crazy but works.


Ladder? lmfao dont bother scrub you cant handle nl heat stay on ladder where you belong
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May 6 2019 11:36am
Quote (Belarathon @ May 6 2019 06:30pm)
Ladder? lmfao dont bother scrub you cant handle nl heat stay on ladder where you belong


Pfff

Come to europe jon. Everyone is welcome there (no ste)
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