FUCKING VOUCH.

24 chargers are straight up scary monsters come to take your soul. 3/xx/15s, 10 ds hat, eth bonesnap, etc. eth/rep clever 1h setups

They honestly deserve a bracket all their own, perhaps like east did charge v charge ladders.

5frw lcs on bowa make them really outrageous as well.

Ive got ideas for a few 24s on EU, just need to decide what i want to build rly.

Lmk what your thoughts are snipa. Perhaps you can make the most of a char I might otherwise abandon.

PS my libby is not a charger yes. I will enter on him tyvm. I promise no bonesnap swap either.

This post was edited by bonnerf2 on Dec 19 2017 09:04am

nubs^^ fear me pala

help me with 24 fireballer then

fissure/necs/kickers also do very well but if someone made a blade fury maybe we can meet at lvl 21
not everything needs to hit lvl 24
bonnerf and snipa u guys will have to come up with classes and lvl req allowed for them and ill host a 18/24 tour first ever
and maybe my last

I was going to pm you, kev, and lamara to see if anyone had a nice piece sitting around but not char to put it on.

my interests are as follows in no real order:

-Firewaller Sorc
-Summon Dudu (pure for tvt only, realistically cant tele,shift,shockwave chain even on East ping) possibly fireclaws
-24 Frenzy barb (might make one just for shits) with throw swap could work ok, double throw might be OP
-CS zon or Plaguer
-Vengeance Pally


Im leaning HARD towards vengeance pally, cuz where else on earth is that viable or even close

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 19 2017 09:37am

i am straight up afraid of that guys gear. outstanding cleavers.



could do one with a OP 24 bracket as well, like not letting chargers vs the 18s but give a nice prize for the winner of the 24s. ill think on it.

I think the problem with these chars at 18 is not that they cant win (they most certainly can!) but paladins and bowas just have fewer losses so tend to reach knockout stages of tours easily. If it was a straight knockout for example you could have a case where a pala takes out a few bowas and then loses to a nec. It would be funny if peka entered on his summon nec. I really think it would go far in a tour.

Tvt can have nice balance. For example my ranger's smite can put off a pala trying to zeal just long enough for a throw barb or something to wreck it. You can get pretty creative with pairings. Dual pala is pretty tough though (might charges will always happen with aura sharing).

PS flo - I'll take on your charger at 24

With the Christmas tournaments all over - prior to posting anything for the 2018 Tournament -

18 - What are we actually considering:

Ama Builds: cap frw @ 50, and may not str bug.

DuDu Builds: All builds, except fissure, to 24 (although there are comments concerning feral rage already viable @ 18).
Sorc Builds: All builds, to 24.
In the first instance I would suggest that 24's may not progress to KO stage.

Nec Builds: None
Barb Builds: None
Pala Builds: I saw reference to Vengeance?
Assa Builds: I saw reference to Blade Fury?

What is the proposal re: nerfing paladins.

30 - Allow 1 pnt medi on paladins, allow 25repl (10 on sorc).
where both players in agreement - allow anything. (tele staffs, wsg, frw etc).../?

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 22 2017 05:52pm

nothing with physical dmg can be lvl 21 or over

Whats at 21? - charms.
better to simply say 18 and 24. As limiting it to 21 might have unintended consequences (there might be some wierd melee build at 24 (although for the life of me i dont know what that is) that might be a dream to play, and to play vs.
shockwave is lvl 24 and could be melee based.

are we limiting it to sorc's and shape druids?

What if anything, is being suggested for paladins. is there something basic we can do that everyone, including paladin players, can accept?

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 22 2017 05:59pm