WTF IS GOING ON HERE

i'm listening to audioslave atm

I did nothing wrong and you have not kept your mouth shut as you claim above. my son i do not know all his involvment, but i do know he has quit from what you did to him.

Hell you posted the threads telling everyone what happened to you, in such a biased way to make you look like you did nothing wrong, when only I can really say that. further you made it look like Daniel mitch and i had everything to do with your issues,. Heck I did not have any part in it, and you should know that or you are more then just mistaken from all i have done for you in the past.

I have forgiven you for selling my gear and have said that many times now but you still act like you did nothing wrong. this is just wrong and you know it - hell you started it all by selling the gear after you where told not to the first time you posted it for sell a few months prior to that, which you have denied here in the lld section, but we both know it did happen.

as to your gear, i have heard from many you got back more then you say you have, and all of those telling me this are telling me the same thing. I could say it was you have told a few lies as to all of this, but that is not really true as spencer really got the gear back not you as it was his account not yours anyway. I know you where harmed in all this, but i had no part in anything which hurt you, but the reverse is not true, and you know that is fact.

I could keep going with much more, but why bother we both know your story does not mess with what others on west say happened, and yours is the only voice saying other wise, and i have told you this and more in PM's to you.

as to the "revival of west LLD" as you put it, it was a idea 3 others had - your self included i just funded it, and i guess what for a while it worked very well.

If the guild was not gm, you had much of that fall on your shoulders. After all you where active as a manager in the guild and kicked guys out (including a fellow manager who started it all with you, while you were ina fit of temper). i just got gear and gave out advice to new lld's. I did not manage in the guild as that was you mitch, and daniel job not mine. hell how could i know who was gm or bm as I had not even compleated a lld at that point, and had not even started to LLD.

sorry you think i told him to do that, but that is a lie and you should know that, from many month and season of me giving you gg llds. sure this giving went both ways but think back and you know how this really went.

also for the record i did nothing wrong, well other then to post on the guild chat that i wanted you to pm me. Which in hind sight was poor judgement, but as you did not respond to my PM's and you where on jsp at the time i thought it would be ok. What went on from there you controled as much as any one else, and a lot more then i did at any point. I was not behind any of what happened to you. I thought you would at least know i had nothing to do with your gear loss as i had no part in his actions, if you do not know that you have forgotten so much this post is a waste of time, and you are all you called me and more. heck here is part of what i wrote to a well known LLD when all this was going on:
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"he is just a nice guy, if he made a mistake so be it, that does not mean he is a bad guy. also do not judge him on this, i am not.

we all make mistakes that is all that really needs to be said, and all i will say as to it, the rest is just between him and me.

I have no bad feeling for him, but if what I hear is true as to what others are doing to him - that is just wrong."
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I will not say who it was as he is still friends with you, but if you pm me i will ask him if i can forward the full email to you.

oh one minor point - now he did it because of me, not for what you did to me... your story has changed again.

one good thing that came out of it you appear to be in the right guild for you. I am glad you and others have fixed you over many months, as you really are not a bad guy, you just made a mistake.

also for the record and as many know this anyway - I would have fixed you in a weekend and we both know i can do things like this for friends, if you would have talked to me at the start rather then posting all of the worst that was in you.

This post was edited by WarlocksDad on Aug 29 2010 07:01pm

One of the characters on the account was a share, I just gave Bo access to the rest. I got NOTHING back, hence why I have one LLD now. Seriously, you can say that all you like, but you never once told me you wanted the gear back, and jesus christ it was mediocre at best. I was actually offline for about 3 days, then came back to a full pm box of rage and hate from these "well known LLDers" on west who had been mislead into thinking I was the one who did something wrong. I explained my side, then got APOLOGIES from everyone, because I was the one who got fucked over by your little gang of 12 year old minions, who believe any of the bullshit you spread like I did for years. You might have apologised, but sorry doesn't equate to how much I lost, and I haven't seen a scrap of compensation from anyone - only donations from people who were sympathetic and actually understood what happened.

But yeah, I am in the right guild now.

And I did talk to you, you chose to ignore me and spread more lies about how I "scammed" you.

its funny I still look at you as honor my online son

you are wrong, and that is clear from what i put in the email shown above.

I did not ignore you. i responded to your emails, but your story was not jiving with the 4 others who also had access that i knew of. I pointed this out more then once, and you where in no mood to talk as a adult about it then or by the looks of it now.

oh and your saying things like i have 12 year old minons shows me how far you have really gone in the last few months.

by the way i still do not blame you for your selling my gear, it was a mistake, but everything you did after that and he reasons you did those things is just wrong.

nothing more needs to be said about this as we both know more about all of this then we are putting here, but only I am being honest about everything i have said.

*grabs popcorn*

I have said all I know. And no, very few people had access to MY account, why the fuck else would it be called *requiredLLD
After selling the gear and getting flamed I just defended myself, sorry if that is so offensive to you but I actually back up the things I say with proof and action.

Ultimately you are responsible (by way of misleading people in LLD guild) for my losses.

Zedoac just picked the wrong side to jump on.

wow there sure is a lot of mr_bilson appreciation going on here.........


ohwait


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i am responceable for many emails like the one above. clearly I was not attacking you like you still say I have, and you have attacked me here in the lld section a few times.

As to my responsiblity for what happened to you - that can apply if i had a hand in any action that harmed you to start with, which i did not. You had more to do with what happened then i did as you let every one know what was going on and kept everyone updated while trying very hard to be seen as the only blameless victim in all of this.

I may have not been a perfect angle in all this, and I may have blown it, but those are rare and the only time i can re-call was after you said something we both know was just wrong and it pointed everything at me as to being a thief. Even so no one really cares (myself included) as i defended you most of the time and tried to do more then throw mud, which is all you have done, and still do.

as to all the APOLOGIES from everyone - I told everyone to let it die, guess you missed that as well. That is the reason you got at least a few of the apoogies. this was all just bad crap from start to end, and it will never be anything more then that. hell the only time it ever even comes up now is from one of you guild mates or a rage freak. i am trusted by many on west so this really does not matter, but if it did it only matters here in the lld section where many do not even know half of what either of us have not posted for all to see, even tho you said you have said all that can not be true.

as to your proof and action - you are all action from what i have seen. As it is for far you have been name calling with no real proof as to what you say i did. of couse as i did nothing wrong that is all you could do. heck the only proof i see is he did it because of me, which does not say i told him to in any way.

if you do not get the point from the the above pm, then you are really messed up over this for reasons i do not want to know, or as an old timer once said - I think you protest to much.

there I think i am done now - take this in any direction you want, as my door is still open to you, but some day you will stop and wonder if you did the best you could in all of this, while i will have no such thoughts.

This post was edited by WarlocksDad on Aug 29 2010 09:13pm