Quote (DJ2v @ Nov 18 2021 10:34am)

I totally agree, let's just make it a "preseason" for testing

Quote (ferdia @ 18 Nov 2021 03:00)

The rules above are designed for free for all 1v1 tournaments as well as Team duels (the most popular form of lld).

In Team matches, Telebarbs with the right gear (and the rules are designed on the basis that the player is wearing the right gear) are incredibly strong vs most builds. When you BO your team and Shout your team, you are providing the total team with alot of damage reduction, via either increased life or increased toughness. Over time, as gear became better and better equipped the rules on East became "Barb can only BO/Shout himself" whereas on Eu over time it became "Barbs may not use Shout".

I accept that very few barb players (but there will be some) will have an amazing 100% perfect barbarian by 2021 on D2r. However, what no shout does for ffa 1v1 and in particular team duels is balance the playing field by giving melee classes a higher chance of contributing to a team win. This will apply more now then ever.

In terms of Melee specific, and Conc barbs, I have never hosted such a tournament, i have been asked to host such a tournament, i dont mind looking but I dont have a starting point. if someone has any set of rules, I would suggest we go with that.

Quote (trix123 @ Nov 18 2021 07:57am)

You're right about barbs never boing teammates in tvt on east, it's been like that fort as long as I can remember. I expected it to stay that way in d2r as well, regardless of the quality of gear. It's simply way too overpowered for one team with a barb to get almost 2x life.
But I just can't fathom this retarded shout ban lol. Who in the fuck is getting an advantage from this lol? How is any barb/sorc/nec/druid/zon going from 800 to 1400 def an advantage in tvt????????
If a melee based character doesn't have the necessary ar to pass the hit check vs 1400 def, they aren't killing shit in the first place.
Not once playing a character like fury druid in legacy did I ever think "wow this 4v4 is so unfair for me because their barb cast shout on them!"
Seriously, who on europe thought this was a problem lol?

I only questioned if this was tailored to melee duels because that's the only logical thing I could think of. However, I don't give a flying fuck about afk m1 duels lol. If people who enjoy that want to make up separate rules, all the power to them.

Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Nov 2021 08:23)

BC is more of an OP thing to put on teammates than shout, and its still not worthy of a ban.

Quote (ferdia @ Nov 19 2021 11:07am)

T4I

unfortunately there is very little there ~

"Throw can once again be bound to a key even if the player has nothing to throw. Additionally, a new key bind called “Force Move” has been added. When used, the player’s character will automatically navigate to the current mouse location."

there is not much besides this. hopefully more to come.

Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Nov 19 2021 11:27am)

>Most advanced players use the function keys (F1¬–F12) to re-map the right and left mouse buttons if they want to swap their abilities on the fly.
we are advanced, boys!

>Additionally, a new key bind called “Force Move” has been added.
this is huge! we get to have move-only on lmb button once more ♥

Quote (Supp13 @ Nov 19 2021 05:31am)

yeah, not much info there yet. but they do mention more info on bug fixxes will come soon, so I'm thinking in the lines of MB functioning like before? wsg stuff? attack speed bug stuff?
this will have a big impact is what I was thinking and may render alot of previous discussion here redundant.

Quote (WereWolf12345 @ Nov 19 2021 11:35am)

even if previous discussion becomes redundant, i think a dialog is always healthy as long as everyone involved are respectful. theres been a couple of trolls, but for the most part i look back fondly at these discussions. they have to be had.