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Mar 22 2017 11:21am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 22 2017 06:03am)
Ranged should be interpreted as "open" vs "melee". basically if you're allowed to run and don't need to stand still lvl 12 should be allowed. the only char arguably OP at 12 is pally, those could be left at 9. for all the other classes it just opens build options and simplifies, instead of making an ele druid lvl of 9 and ss druid lvl of 12, etc.



nah, in 12 zvz shields are generally not allowed. and in a small place the duels are shorter than one might think. i know the pain of 18 caster v caster, its not that bad.


what alse are u gonna be dueling then? I am just curious what other bad lvl 12 builds you can make then will do more then 5hp dam per hit. Why not just leave vlld as a mellee just like it should be

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Mar 22 2017 11:49am
Quote (grimaud @ Mar 22 2017 12:21pm)
what alse are u gonna be dueling then? I am just curious what other bad lvl 12 builds you can make then will do more then 5hp dam per hit. Why not just leave vlld as a mellee just like it should be


"like it should be" is so opinionated. obviously we disagree with you.

notable builds:
bowa
lightning bolt java
poison java
kicker
bear druid
wolf druid
ice blast sorc
fireball sorc
fissure druid
molten bolder druid
charger
throw barb
psy hammer psn bowa kicker hybrid sin
summon druid would be neat for tvt
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Mar 22 2017 11:55am
Quote (grimaud @ Mar 22 2017 11:21am)
what alse are u gonna be dueling then? I am just curious what other bad lvl 12 builds you can make then will do more then 5hp dam per hit. Why not just leave vlld as a mellee just like it should be


they're too separate brackets that don't effect each other. your argument is no more valid than someone saying "ranged lvl 30 really ruins 30 melee". its nonsensical.

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Mar 22 2017 11:59am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 22 2017 12:55pm)
they're too separate brackets that don't effect each other. your argument is no more valid than someone saying "ranged lvl 30 really ruins 30 melee". its nonsensical.


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Quote (sir_cyclops @ Mar 22 2017 12:49pm)
"like it should be" is so opinionated. obviously we disagree with you.

notable builds:
bowa
lightning bolt java
poison java
kicker
bear druid
wolf druid
ice blast sorc
fireball sorc
fissure druid
molten bolder druid
charger
throw barb
psy hammer psn bowa kicker hybrid sin
summon druid would be neat for tvt



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Mar 22 2017 01:36pm
Quote (Riox @ Mar 22 2017 02:14pm)
U forgot 1
Urmom


great point. urmom isn't a very good build though. she gets owned regularly.
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Mar 22 2017 01:42pm
Quote (sir_cyclops @ Mar 22 2017 02:36pm)
great point. urmom isn't a very good build though. she gets owned regularly.



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Quote (sir_cyclops @ Mar 22 2017 02:36pm)
great point. urmom isn't a very good build though. she gets owned regularly.



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Mar 22 2017 08:48pm
Quote (sir_cyclops @ Mar 22 2017 12:49pm)
"like it should be" is so opinionated. obviously we disagree with you.

notable builds:
bowa
lightning bolt java
poison java
kicker
bear druid
wolf druid
ice blast sorc
fireball sorc
fissure druid
molten bolder druid
charger
throw barb
psy hammer psn bowa kicker hybrid sin
summon druid would be neat for tvt


just for shits and giggles ill explain u something
kickers are cap=lvl 9 (so no)
bear druid (yes but that a melee)
wolf druid sure (melee)
poison java will do about the same dam as amount of time bjcummings goes to gym per year (aka 0 dam vs death gloves and belt)
fire fireball sorce should be renamed into shiver armor sorce (does 0 dam)
molten bolder druid will be about as good as bowa (u will never hit anything)
throw barb might be only other viable build
charger are bm vs vlld (its been descused years ago) charger would win every duel

basicly what I am saying is u love making bad character, regardless if u agree with me or not, ur characters would do 0 dam and would get smoked by vlld sigon kicker
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Quote (grimaud @ Mar 22 2017 09:48pm)
just for shits and giggles ill explain u something
kickers are cap=lvl 9 (so no)
bear druid (yes but that a melee)
wolf druid sure (melee)
poison java will do about the same dam as amount of time bjcummings goes to gym per year (aka 0 dam vs death gloves and belt)
fire fireball sorce should be renamed into shiver armor sorce (does 0 dam)
molten bolder druid will be about as good as bowa (u will never hit anything)
throw barb might be only other viable build
charger are bm vs vlld (its been descused years ago) charger would win every duel

basicly what I am saying is u love making bad character, regardless if u agree with me or not, ur characters would do 0 dam and would get smoked by vlld sigon kicker


i'm not sure if youve been reading along. i also thought kickers were 9 but snipa says they go to 12. regardless, i actually have a sigons kickers. and sure, these dont do amazing damage. still really fun. team vlld duels is awesome.
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