12 lb zon with amp/kb javs is gozu

sounds fun. i didnt know kicker could go to 12. i had a full sigons 9 kicker with near p gear. half 15 life / psn dmg lcs, half 15 life / mana lcs. all 20 ed / 20 psn / dex or life jewels.

I would never participate in lvl 12 range caster range duels. regular attack zon means like a dumb idea to me

in ranged VLLD duels all characters can go to 12. Something i have tried to inform the ESCL crowd of for quite a few ladders now as they have built many lvl 9s for ranged. that is if you go by the rules we tested and made in about 2009 in Turock's tournaments. But i know u guys like you're molten boulder chars, i'd just suggest taking the 3 lvls and getting fissure as well.

Then again a nice 9 that can melee and ranged isn't a bad thing, i had my fair share of sac pallys that just had a t spear on swap.



a lot more builds are viable in a tvt setting than one might think.

but IMO it's no more or less dumb that melee, and requires more skill for a certainty.

Yup. Keeping the arena smaller helps too (like inner cloister) as in the moor its too easy to kite until mana or spears runs out.

I upgraded the feral a little too since you were last on it. 3sox helm instead of the 2sox rare before so a bit more damage.

I just didn't know kicker was ranged. I have always made my vlld ranged chars level 12.

problem with lvl 12 zon is would be like watching 2 lvl 18 fissure druids duel (aka whoever has a stronger bladder wins)

Ranged should be interpreted as "open" vs "melee". basically if you're allowed to run and don't need to stand still lvl 12 should be allowed. the only char arguably OP at 12 is pally, those could be left at 9. for all the other classes it just opens build options and simplifies, instead of making an ele druid lvl of 9 and ss druid lvl of 12, etc.



nah, in 12 zvz shields are generally not allowed. and in a small place the duels are shorter than one might think. i know the pain of 18 caster v caster, its not that bad.

sweet! did you all consider angelics bm? I, personally, always used angelics armor, ring, and amulet for the +1 skill, life, dex, rep life.

angelics were always a touchy issue in melee vlld. with sorcs and druids allowed lvl 12 we settled on angelics ring/ammy being BM in 12v9 but GM in 12v12. So in ranged where all chars are allowed 12 it was entirely GM. my zon always used angelics ammy and 1x ring with a 3min / ar / rep / mana / energy ring or something close.