Tbh Adam has probably bmed Lld more than haseo lol

This post was edited by IAmAsylum on Jul 17 2020 09:31am

Possibly but being a scammer or injecting/loading on a tainted key/legit account that isnt mine is not me hehe

adam ran hard pt in prayer hdin for like 6 years when it was considered bm in lld lol

first time i hvh'd him i swore i was lagging because he had medi on scepter side haha

adam either

snipa's meme summed it up tbh

still trying to imagine how people allowed that to be bm for even 1 day let alone 6 yrs.

to disallow access to a libbys most important skill(vigor) just because you need to skill prayer to get to it is beyond crippling.
i mean vigor bumps charge dmg AND hammer dmg both, lol..

like i totally see how more than 1 pt in prayer is bm, and even more so i can see how certain people may abuse it and make it annoying even with just 1 pt, but you can't punish everyone for what like only 2 or 3 ppl do. just call them out for it when its happening and get the rest of the tvt to universally agree to ask whoever is doing it to stop.

me personally i spec for 1500+ mana on all hdin/libby builds i do so that im on my meditate swap as little as possible.(aka only use it when i need mana so i put heavy mana on so that i need it less often)

No one cries about it in Tvt

Imo 10 rep (honor) + 1 pt prayer is fine

It gets shitty when there’s a pure hdin running 30 rep plus 1 pt prayer and l8zing

This post was edited by IAmAsylum on Jul 17 2020 10:19am

yeah thats pretty much how ive always felt aswell.

and there have definitely been ppl in tvt at times who made it worth complaining about, but to make it "bm" for 6 yrs just because if you didn't then you'd have to have an unpleasant conversation every so often in team duels, is kinda bogus. but then again ive never been one to avoid confrontation because i like speaking my mind so maybe thats just me lol, the way i see it, better to get it out of the way in the moment than build up resentment towards people and continue to allow negativity to drive you in life. i feel that way about every kind of confrontation tho not just in the moor huehue.

its a cocktail of reasons, blessed with a memory for stupid shit i can elaborate.

1. prayer dins were a thing to bm out games, not libbys, stupid prayer dins that would try to schwoop for a crit then piss off to regen

2. tearhaunch is and always has been an option, and its not a shitty option either. 70 str is np, has res, frw, etc. and nn str bugged frw as much on libby

3. in an attempt to not become EU rules that were class specific around frw/fcr etc were shunned. so saying x, y, and z get a set amount of rep but libby gets 10 rep, wasn't a good thing according to some.

4. ladder and NL were far more tied, and so a 10 replife limit on pallys meant using pcrowns wasn't viable. or at least you'd need to buy a 10 rep p crown.

5. hard pt medi isn't needed, as youll get a higher level medi off insight and most chars either have insight or an honor with medi. turning a medi + vigor justification into just vigor.

6. vigor isnt needed to synch, just makes synching easier and better

7. adam slammed a lot of people and hvh challenges would happen, prayer din vs prayer din would take hours.



ive always had zero issue with either allowing dins a good amount of rep and no hard pt plus use vigor OR 10 rep or under with vigor hard stat'd. mainly because tearhaunch isnt a bad item.

and i prefer the jawn/break style of dual spirits one side, insight staff, lower str build. just worked better for me than divine build with part.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Jul 17 2020 10:33am

i personally do not care at all if tearhaunch is/was a good option, the vigor is not only for using to synch, maxing it allows your hammers to go up in damage aswell as charge, its a synergy for both.

if someone wanted to have pissing contests with adam the rest of the ppl were more than capable of going to a new game and continuing the tvt, shit it would probably have been better without hdins neways. but i dont see the pt behind making the most important pally skill unaccessable just because people didnt like confrontation, id rather just get the confrontation out of the way and deal with it when they come than to completely cripple a class, thats like making 120frw the max for zons or making es sorces be 65 block, its just ridiculous and is only fair if you plan to cripple every class.

from what you are saying it just sounds like there was a period of time where a bunch of people who hate paladins had free reign to torture users who enjoyed the class with their other non paladin characters. lol.

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