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Feb 9 2019 06:11pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Feb 9 2019 02:03pm)
EoP on smiter absolutely makes a huge difference. You'll be able to beat nec/druid/blizz/plague/barb 1v1 and have a decent chance vs trap which is a pretty big change from "loses to literally everything"

I'm not saying it would make smiter broken because it would still be a tier 2 or 3 build but allowing hybrids to make a shit build less shitty doesn't seem like a useful change. Just play a build that isn't shit


You make it sound like all hybrids are being considered. Only two are in question. You talk about a smiter being a shit build, and then you say "play a build that isn't shit. A bit confusing and contradicting, please bless us all with a build that I haven't already tried.

This post was edited by danzeva on Feb 9 2019 06:14pm
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Feb 9 2019 06:16pm
Quote (Co99020 @ Feb 9 2019 03:20am)
Honestly I wouldn’t mind smiters being played like this...just eop allowed for them seems reasonable..this is not over powered and can still be countered...it be nice to see some weak builds become viable for more variability...nice gameplay btw mr haseo B)


i agree with Co99020...
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Feb 9 2019 06:19pm
Quote (Haseo @ Feb 9 2019 11:25am)
in all reality a smiter in lld shouldnt touch anything that isnt another melee char range, or bowa (but bowa wins lul)


Melee? Other then ww(which isn't melee) and charger what melee are you talking about? In a caster format pretty much you're saying some classes can't be played then? This isn't about smiter being able to counter melee. It's about smiter being able to be viable in a caster /range format.
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Feb 9 2019 06:23pm
i ve played vs danzeva smiter... that specific hybrid don t make it op at all... my bone nec still win most of the duels vs him, so i don t see the problem in this particular case. And yes, now he can win a couple of duels... but before using lawbringer, smiter had no chance at all.

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Quote (danzeva @ Feb 9 2019 08:19pm)
Melee? Other then ww(which isn't melee) and charger what melee are you talking about? In a caster format pretty much you're saying some classes can't be played then? This isn't about smiter being able to counter melee. It's about smiter being able to be viable in a caster /range format.


ww and charger are both melee-ranged characters
you're undermining yourself

smiter won't be viable in a caster format unless you allow them to use eop

Quote (danzeva @ Feb 9 2019 08:11pm)
You make it sound like all hybrids are being considered. Only two are in question. You talk about a smiter being a shit build, and then you say "play a build that isn't shit. A bit confusing and contradicting, please bless us all with a build that I haven't already tried.


Hybrids are bm in lld. I don't see what you're missing here.
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Feb 9 2019 06:30pm
Just spend a lot of money to be viable. Ez

2pcomb/30frw/60life/2soc 2x 20/6/9 or 18max/6/9
80/3soc 20/6/9 or 18/6/9
2pcomb/9/9/60/90
4charge/4fana/30ias/160ed e rep divine or 2pcomb/30ias/160ed/2soc e rep knout
30/20/65ed/121ar/3soc akaran targe
Foh/conv/medi honor

Enough 15/12’s to charge
Rest 3/20/15’s

Now you can charge/foh/smite. Ez
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Feb 9 2019 06:34pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Feb 9 2019 06:23pm)
ww and charger are both melee-ranged characters
you're undermining yourself

smiter won't be viable in a caster format unless you allow them to use eop



Hybrids are bm in lld. I don't see what you're missing here.


Did you just dodge my question, again? I understand, but do you? Smiter can be better, so lets try and come to agreement to that end.

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Feb 9 2019 06:38pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Feb 9 2019 06:30pm)
Just spend a lot of money to be viable. Ez

2pcomb/30frw/60life/2soc 2x 20/6/9 or 18max/6/9
80/3soc 20/6/9 or 18/6/9
2pcomb/9/9/60/90
4charge/4fana/30ias/160ed e rep divine or 2pcomb/30ias/160ed/2soc e rep knout
30/20/65ed/121ar/3soc akaran targe
Foh/conv/medi honor

Enough 15/12’s to charge
Rest 3/20/15’s

Now you can charge/foh/smite. Ez


I disagree, I have currently a similar build. Tested vs cota,jack,mike,haseo, and countless duels in lld. Go ahead waste your money, been there done that. I got to the point were there's only a few upgrades for stat points but nothing that would actually make a difference in the lld scene....ez....

This post was edited by danzeva on Feb 9 2019 06:56pm
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Quote (danzeva @ Feb 9 2019 05:38pm)
I disagree, I have currently a similar build. Tested vs cota,jack,mike,haseo, and countless duels in lld. Go ahead waste your money, been there that that. I got to the point were there's only a few upgrades for stat points but nothing that would actually make a difference in the lld scene.



You haven’t done that, that’s why you’re dying.
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Feb 9 2019 06:54pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Feb 9 2019 06:39pm)
You haven’t done that, that’s why you’re dying.


Did you just ignore the fact I said I have that similar build? :bonk:

I mained it for a long time. Please mention again some thing I haven't already tried. Any one here, try me. I have plenty of people in the community that can agree that I have tested and grinded multiple builds for smiter only to have the same results.

I'm not here with out credibility. I'm here because this would be the next step for me or any hard core lld smiter.

This post was edited by danzeva on Feb 9 2019 07:17pm
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