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Nov 1 2018 11:33pm
Quote (starcreaft453 @ Nov 1 2018 10:02pm)
You are just as bad or worse


I'm sorry to man but he has a right t defend himself. I know I'm
pretty new to the site, but I know that scammer accusations of any kind in any scenario would screw someone. When someone as new as me scrolls past someone with a signature accusing someone of scamming, 9/10 times that person is going to believe them. I've read all the posts and screen shots, and I feel for Cathedral, and the fact someone with this much hate can go around acting this way is bullshit
I don't even lld, I just play the game and sell shit.

This post was edited by Davleer on Nov 1 2018 11:33pm
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Quote (Davleer @ Nov 1 2018 10:33pm)
I'm sorry to man but he has a right t defend himself. I know I'm
pretty new to the site, but I know that scammer accusations of any kind in any scenario would screw someone. When someone as new as me scrolls past someone with a signature accusing someone of scamming, 9/10 times that person is going to believe them. I've read all the posts and screen shots, and I feel for Cathedral, and the fact someone with this much hate can go around acting this way is bullshit
I don't even lld, I just play the game and sell shit.



“Tarnishing his rep”
Hahaha dude... every person on here saw queef making a fool of himself with the posts he was making. It was a joke. I told csthedral to calm down. Queef is notoriously dramatic. This would have blown over in 3 days. Instead cathedral was scared people wouldn’t trade with him and dragged me through the mud and all that’s gonna come of this is queef having a personal vendetta vs me. Cathedral cares more about his rep on jsp than being a decent person... he outed me and made himself look like such a bitch at the same time... he didn’t need to defend himself. People thought queef was being a complete psychopath by making all those threads...
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I started LLD like many do, on ladder with a char that i made from my own design that was built horribly and followed no guide. It was a lvl 18 kicker. Slumbering-Giant was one of the NL kids that decided to make an 18 that ladder and he came into games with a cookie cutter charge/zeal pally and absolutely rekt me over and over. had a KB spear on swap. I was convinced that the KB spear was the cheat code of LLD and started to make my own c/c zealot with an eth-rep pair of short spears i mf'd with KB. the char sucked, i tried to use the spears as my main wep to avoid having to wep swap. Then my savior arrived, MikeyJD. He took a look at my gear, told me everything i was doing wrong, pm'd me builds to follow, and even gave me his spare rare belt (basically a shirt off his back moment).

Once ladder rerolled i pitted my chars against NL's finest and lost 10 ears for every 1 i took for a few years. Befriended Mr_Puddles, Turock, CheeseEatah, BadGuts, and Electricwizard (among many others, just my besties at the time). I was running VLLD on NL (around 2009) and building 18's on Ladder. I was in the guild WickedDarkJuggalos at the time because i was friends with Clifford. But left the guild to join Heroes because Derek offered me FG to build a Heroes guild share account. I built it but Heroes failed to really use it and i basically just absorbed all the gear i bought into my own shit. Then after Heroes had a few sketchy drama situations I left to join guild VLLD. At this time i was running 4x full computers of bots with my own script on ladder and quickly amassed more gear than any single person could use or even sell. I had badguts and Mikey build 2x full accounts of share characters all lvl 18s and kept and sold all the 30 gear myself. That was my favorite thing really, giving NL guys access to ladder on an accounts that had 16x fully built chars in near NL quality gear.

Once that ladder finished I began working more with BJCummings, we built accounts together for years and he benefited from my bots while i benefited from his pm sniping on jsp. We started co-running tours on ladder and accessing out chars to many NL guys like Mikey, Jerrybean, Tizzel, etc. It went on like that for a time until BJ deleted Malaysia and huge drama ensued, shares were all affected, and as a result BJ quit. I started building 39s with cheeseeatah and moved more towards building than dueling. At this time i made the escl LLD pricecheck thread which took many hours and was just a play by me to regulate the prices on the entire market for my benefit. I was artificially inflating and deflating prices on a micro scale and felt like a super villain, despite not actually make much fg lol. The only other notable bit from that era was the Fuuuu ladder on nl, which was 100% non-cookie cutter chars. Really really fun stuff. We also help fuuuu mf runs each ladder. And even did a 100% self found MLD ladder on west, only 4-5 of the people ever made a full char but the pvm was fun as hell.

Following that LLD died down quite a bit, people shared less, and most people were late in college and entering the workplace. Diablo 3 had come out which stole a bit of thunder, ahead of the PVP announcement in that game and with blizz implementing -lvl req mods in D3, i started to MF and build LLDs in D3 with GSControlla. Pvp was a fail, time was wasted, and i came back to D2 full time. I started at this time on a journey to make characters that shouldnt win take ears. Full rare conc barb, shock charger, and many other failed builds that never made it past testing. I left VLLD and joined LiB, started joining ZvZ events. Continued building and price checking on ladder. I also befriended quite a few EU players (babs and sired), gained access there. played in some 18 tours and got rekt.

The last 5 years or so have been largely uneventful. I have moved more into odd builds and tried to breathe life into 24 and 39 dueling. 24 has been a success on EU but on east my 12 or so chars are almost all the 24s on the realm. we had some fun testing 18s vs 24s but the activity in the tourney was nil and it was cancelled. No one can ever forget the 5-4 heard round the world when riox the bully was downed hard 2h v 2h chargers shock vs shortbus. nor those who came before him like Im_blizz who got downed vs a 0 res conc barb that i tokened into a ww/throw brawler to take a 1k fg wager frw barb vs blizz. Working the last few years to collaborate on many chars has been great, i really dont have the time to do much personally. Kwiksilver, belarathon the bully, riox, bonnerf2, and rudipk all deserve credit for gear donations, char help, and much more. Theory crafting with many others like meegz, atomicman, excellence, rikid, etc is always a great deal of fun.


somewhere on my computer in a labarynth of bullshit i have a word document calling out each player that influenced me that i wrote years ago when i "quit" as a goodbye. if i can find it i'll post it lol
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Nov 2 2018 10:15am
Quote (ATOMICMAN @ Feb 26 2015 02:41pm)
Wow, lots of great names listed in here.

I started in classic (as in before lod) with a lvl 12 bone snap charger and such pking newbies. It got boring really quick.

Fast forward to 1.09 I started up again with a 19 ts sin as part of a guild I ran with that did tournies for 19s. Got owned by godz-llds bear Druid hard. Remade an 18 with proper max jewels and what not. Ran the gauntlet with old schoolers bela, spazz, rancid, meitou, and many others I can't remember any more.

Skip to 1.10. Ts sins are dead and buried at 18 remake as a 18 zealot. Run into saytun wielding a +zeal scepter and get squished hard. Spend a few weeks regearing and have some heated competition with saytun. Months go by and I can't seem to shake him try out new weapons. Clegs zealot because the answer. Finally best him regularly. Meet a bunch of other 18s at the time. Zolas, 2fat, and so many others I can't recall. Went undefeated for about a year in lld101 tournies. I retired my 18 to focus on my lvl 30s. Elusive took my lvl 18 mantle and ran with it for a long time. Other noteworthy friends from the scene; meegz, Leandro (lots of theorycraft on defense based characters), breakbeatz,and many elude me from the last alcohol fuel pvp fight nights.

Ended up quitting in 2006 or 2007 after a good chunk of my toons expired.


C&p'ed from bels link on the first page.

Been back now nearly a year. Has been lots of fun. Currently have my own account and still keeping meitous accounts alive and kicking.
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Nov 2 2018 10:24am
Quote (ATOMICMAN @ Nov 2 2018 04:15pm)
C&p'ed from bels link on the first page.

Been back now nearly a year. Has been lots of fun. Currently have my own account and still keeping meitous accounts alive and kicking.


yeah his thread is pretty awesome lots of cool ppl in there :X an glad you're back & havin fun
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Nov 2 2018 11:30am
holy shit what a list, updated some, if i missed u lmk and i will add you in haha






MikeyJD - When I met Mikey I was a ladder kid with a zeal/throw hybrid lvl 18 pally that sucked. Mike fixed my build, fixed the rest of my chars, and steered me towards the LLD section. Ive never encountered someone more willing to help newbies in a sarcasm/flame free manner.

BJCummings - First person I ever shared an account with not from real life. Decent dueler, legendary bigmouth, notorious lowballer / hoarder, and a great guy. Whether or not the LLD section has forgiven you for deleting Malaysia.

Exxo - Legendary libby player, taught me how to synch.

Jawn16 - Taught me how to lose in every matchup ever created. If i have ever taken a Jon ear it was when he was AFK. I also sold my frst ever "lld item" to you, a perfect ed/duri honor naga.

IbZack - As legendary or a dueler as Jawn was, dueled you less but won just as few times.

Darkempire - Jamie was a great dueler and always enjoyed dueling him ___ vs. Windy, seems he got forgotten too quickly when he left.

Badguts - One ladder me, badguts, and mikeyjd build like 12+ lvl 18s across 2 shared accs. Still the coolest thing i ever did in LLD

Cheeseeatah - Perhaps my favorite poster of all time. As good of a guy as he was a bad dueler. Kept the dream of lvl 39 duelers alive years after waramp.

Belarathon - From LLD pvm adventures, to single player wts, to tvts you've always been a fun guy and great dueler.

Reaperking - Managed my accs and added so much to them, consistently a force in melee and a great organizer

Breakbeatz - Like many i was inspired by the old trophy thread you had, your items seemed impossible not to mention all on the same account, not to mention that many chars all owned by one person. minihotdognoselol will be something i can never forget

GsController - What a controversial character you are Tom. Whether it be the .255 ias threads, the endless shit talking with Roy, or even the failed LLD startup in D3 it always seemed you had them up against you. I personally only ever had fun playing D2/D3 with you, even if you are on steroids.

Baboun - No one has nor ever will match the # of LLD section multis that you have. (LLD Police guild can vouch that) And no one else trolled trophy room like you. Despite the hate you get you're an MLD and amazon in general master.

Siredwards - Although we didnt play much together I have used your lvl 18 acc on Eu alot. Ty for introducing me to the throw/trap 18 tvt sin.

Bigspot-Meegz - Inspired me to use the bloodletter-honor bva build and raged many ladder kids doing it!

MrBilson - Quality poster from an era with lots of quality posters! IIRC u left jsp by force, sending porn to Njag like David. I respect a man who burns the ground behind him.

ClanBK - When someone from the LLD section was needed to flame a newcomer David was always there, and it was always entertaining to watch.

yeawatup - Whether in D2 or D3 I've always had fun playing with Andy2, or is it Andy1, maybe andy3, i never really could remember who got hte #1 tag

ElectricWizard - Very few people have inspired the body of work or hate that Jim gets, whether its lowball accusations, hoarding, or his click and hold prowess it seems they all up against him. But there are few people out there with the caliber collections you have and few people with the ability to clap cheeks like you. LiBest.

BadLt - Great zon player, great guy. Those old Roy vs Oli threads were a blast to read, especially when Caley and Elusive got in on the shit talkin. LiBest.

Sackshadow - Seems like the black sheep of the LLD section currently, but ive always liked Troy. Even if he does get drunk and threaten people to IRL triwhirls

PerserkerPVP - Dont think i ever stepped into the moor vs one of ur chars but they inspired me and others none the less. Just like Break on east you had gear in quantities that were insane for that era, and it seems you're one of the few players who cashed your career out in real $, Kudos!

Cavein - Lesser known Eu llder but a great guy none-the-less. I will always respect someone who prefers fun builds over cookie cutter ones and that fits you perfectly!

IAmAsylum - Gotta respect a guy who tries to make maul work at 18 and 30! Gm dueler, trader, poster, and a great guy.

JustfunLLD - It seems you may have retired to the PARD subsection forever but you were consistently the most generous player on east IMO. Great melee and all around 18 guy and constant participant in LLD pvm and purist ladders!

Grimaud - aka Grim4d. Your flame wars with BJ were always fun to watch, and you've always been a GM dueler.

Deeznuts - Im not sure if you were in Heroes or not when I made a Heroes-LLD shared acc with Derek's bank but those were fun days.

Goonies - I sold you my max def barb and then you afk'd and let it expire, but always a GM trader / dueler with me.

Justo9 - Haters gonna hate, i think its you who tried the Armageddon/Fireclaws druid and i still think thats one of the coolest builds ever.

Linny - Thank you for aproving every ironman I've ever competed in, and for keeping the dream of a blaze sorc alive when it should have died in initial testing.

Roy - No one could 'andle his riddum, if only Jawn had that token we may have seen fireworks.

Bbanee - Ive never seen such a defensive, corner abusing, house abusing dueler in all my time. And yet despite all the rage, flame, and hate you get you rarely shoot back. Keep raping ladder and raging newbs.

Wyo - Legend from the Turock era of VLLD, had a competitive feral rage druid at lvl 9 melee, that should tell you the level of jewels he had on him!

Turock - Cotroversial to allow ebugged items into VLLD tourney, but always ran an outstanding ladder. Adam the day you left VLLD ladders left with you.

Blankey - really fun vlld theory crafting with you

Pongnew - <3 pong, great poster, dueler, and pvmer.

Worrywart - need i say more

SXTitan - firewall pioneer, and another telechar pioneer. first person i saw advocate for frw being so important on circs for casters

Jerm - GM guy, should have been born into east lol. Purist ladder participant <3

Bakedham - Never played with you but your west gear at mld was legendary. Few people had 1 druid geared as good as your 3 on any realm.

Tizzel - Ted! By far the cleanest namelocks i ever saw when the game was at its peak. Topcat was worth alot of laughs as well.

Luminaire_x - Has anyone ever trolled UsEast Trading subforum the way you did? IMO no, RIP toughcrew, im sure you all still meet under the brooklyn bridge at least once a week to doll out left hooks while wearing doorags and jordan jerseys.

Snuffelupocus - Unbeknownst to most Snuff had the best lvl 30 BVB on east for nearly a decade. AFAIK it never had a single duel.

Clifford - one of the most unique collecters i've ever met

Elusive - some of the best mlds from east antiquity and the best vlld chars easts ever had

Hong10 - ty for your crafting advice and general theory crafting controbutions to the subsection

Jackson - great old friend i collaborated with and donated me and BJ a lot of top notch gear

Chum - aka leevolka = scammart, obviously

Octo - downed 5-4 by ibzack, cokaine faki faki

Addesmile - Top teir dueler, funny guy.

Dwerfs - Could be way off but i seem to remember you buying an .08 visc to try and make it work on a necro and then it was followed by a legendary thread discussing how bad 08 visc is on a necro :)

MrPuddles - brilliant theory crafter, inventor of some of my favorite builds (desynch ranger 18 pally, lvl 30 psn dagger sin), and an all around great guy to play with. I hope the LoL retirement suits you well.

Xvmurdacb - one of the nicest guys on jsp, great audiobook sharing with you!

Cadagan - The only person ive ever met from the LLD section that was also a tourney playing disc golfer. Ill never forget you on a CS zon, didnt think it would work until u made it work.

Meitou - i dont know if u made your name to be pronounced "mewtwo" but ive literally never said it any other way

Tigfht.acct - even more than the Roy-vs-Jon and the other threads your fuuuv2 still has my vote for best LLD thread all time!

Skyball - I remember fondly dueling ur zealer with my conc barb, never could touch it.

Diablo2G - George! So many beautiful 18s on Eu, every trophy thread seemed to be an even more impossibly well built char!

Diablo2M - Marco! The lesser known of the Diablo2 brothers, but just as GM and nice of a guy as George.

Miktex - ALways got you confused with Mike-roch, dont know why, but a gm guy and great poster.

Mike-Roch - ALways got you confused with Miktex, dont know why, but a gm guy and great poster.

zspoonz - I mostly dueled you in 18 tvts iirc, but remember you as a gm dueler and quality member of the sub. Any mistakes member is a legend.

waramp - GM guy with the nicest 39 hunter bva ever built afaik.

slumberinggiant - In the same game where i met Mikey you were there raping ladder nubs, me among them. Always a gm dueler and great guy around the section.

miqtwist - Exxo taught me how to synch, you taught me how to die to synch.

muletornado - one of the consistently most kind posters and always there to help anyone with rushes, skills, items, you name it

koez1 - HGH1, another quality member of that guild.

required - #1 mfer, only later to find out you botted lol. Still a GM guy and #1 westie poster

Newkid - That hulk hogan playing the guitar ava u had will be stuck in my brain forever. Quality poster.

Rikkid - its rikkid, love you

riox - 5-4 never forget

Aereincarnation - Wow a nearly universally hated on individual. Lived by the code that if you make alot of money its ok to buy full inventories on item sites, when that was still very bm. Still had the best lvl 12 ranged char ever built and some of the best legit VLLD gear ever.

jonbmx - great newer bud, happy to have you on my accs.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 2 2018 11:31am
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Nov 2 2018 11:48am
wanted a different challenge from regular HLDing. had seen some low level chars just destroy tomb games etc in 1.08-1.09 so i started seeing if people actually dueled at those levels instead of picking off chars who were leveling

dont know how i stumbled upon it but i found lld101 and was hooked then on.
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Nov 2 2018 12:09pm
I started when I met a kid named Andy. His jsp was Enjoi353 and had the lvl 30 hdin Hwp-pubsayihack.

He was looking for a spirit sword that I had and he needed it for his lvl 30 fber. I was confused as to why he needed it and he said it was his dueler. I was like yeah right and he proceeded to kill my high levels with it and I was amazed.

He talked me into building a level 30 charger and I used that for a good year or so. I was amazed at seeing him on a hdin and synching. I wanted to learn how to do this myself so I eventually made my own hdin. I died a ton at first cause it took me a long time to learn desynch, but eventually became amazing at it
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Quote (Dongdale @ 2 Nov 2018 14:09)
I started when I met a kid named Andy. His jsp was Enjoi353 and had the lvl 30 hdin Hwp-pubsayihack.

He was looking for a spirit sword that I had and he needed it for his lvl 30 fber. I was confused as to why he needed it and he said it was his dueler. I was like yeah right and he proceeded to kill my high levels with it and I was amazed.

He talked me into building a level 30 charger and I used that for a good year or so. I was amazed at seeing him on a hdin and synching. I wanted to learn how to do this myself so I eventually made my own hdin. I died a ton at first cause it took me a long time to learn desynch, but eventually became amazing at it



You still playing at all or no? I think this reset is going to be so sweet!
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Quote (Belarathon @ Nov 2 2018 02:52pm)
You still playing at all or no? I think this reset is going to be so sweet!



He got slammed off east by haseo and rudipk, was ez really
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