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Feb 1 2007 10:16am
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Thu, Feb 1 2007, 04:03pm)
I would go straight bow.


Well wont there be lots of skillpoints left over? So wouldn't it be a "passive bowazon".
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Feb 1 2007 10:25am
True, I don't know much about 18 bowzons.

I guess there isn't a better option but I just can't imagine any situation where you would ever want to melee with jab. It seems like pumping unneccesary amounts into crit dodge and avoid might be better for the tiny increase they give at higher levels.

I've never played a bow zon at any level though...
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Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Thu, Feb 1 2007, 04:25pm)
True, I don't know much about 18 bowzons.

I guess there isn't a better option but I just can't imagine any situation where you would ever want to melee with jab.  It seems like pumping unneccesary amounts into crit dodge and avoid might be better for the tiny increase they give at higher levels.

I've never played a bow zon at any level though...


I've never made an ama for pvp xD
Anyway, I'm going to make a topic, nn spam your guide.
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Any zealot with a Crushflange and Swordback Hold on its weapon switch should be able to beat this build. All you need it one point in smite, and the equipment will do the rest.


Well obviously any ranged build is going to beat a conc barb.


Unlike VLLD, Smite is classified as melee at level 18. LOL at calling smiters a ranged build.
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Feb 1 2007 01:57pm
We already had this discussion on 101, and everyone who knew anything about D2 agreed smite was not melee.

Even Jerkazoid.

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Feb 1 2007 01:59pm
smite sucks at level 18 anyways
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We already had this discussion on 101, and everyone who knew anything about D2 agreed smite was not melee.

Even Jerkazoid.

GG


Duh. Yet if you click on the 101 Arena, you'll see that Smiters duel in the "Melee" category at level 18.

self-pwned

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rjg wins

This post was edited by majestikk on Feb 1 2007 02:07pm
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Feb 1 2007 02:11pm
Is this LLD101? No.

I'm talking about the general consensus of every high end D2 player, not the ancient rule Knarl made many years ago.

Everyone that knows anything about D2 knows that smite isn't considered melee. Arguing otherwise is for noobs. It gets brough up all the time by pub randoms and the conversation always goes like this:

Noob: Smite is melee because I looked up "melee" in the dictionary and it means any close ranged attack

Me: I don't give a shit what the dictionary says

Noob: But read the dictionary, smite is melee!

Me: Smite isn't balanced with melee skills, it doesn't require AR to hit.

Noob: Websters > you

Me: The person who wrote the dictionary didn't play Diablo or know what skills were balanced with melee skills.

Noob: You can't argue with the actual definition of the word.

There you go rjg. I saved you some time from playing the noob part in this discussion. When you grow a brain and are able to understand that were categorize skills based on balance and not dictionary definitions then you can discuss.

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Feb 1 2007 02:11pm
Nice guide wink.gif

My barb is just like that, except I use:
45max/3iron skin avenger guard [I know, I'm such a noob]
death's belt [ cold hurts me so bad ]

Also, a question:

Are 15/x ARs switchable in place of 15/x Def's? I currently use 15/ars cause I thought they would help me get my AR up

@ste - all I can say about making an 18 bowzon is make sure you have enough mana..
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