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Sep 17 2010 10:04am
Quote (minifoot @ 17 Sep 2010 16:59)
LOL?


what i mean is, how many chars have actually some cold dmg ?

esfb = nn
lite sorc = nn
necro = nn
trap = nn, not 100% sure
fissure= nn
hammer = nn
ww barbs = mein don't have

whats left ?
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Sep 17 2010 10:06am
you cant have more or less cbf ... you either have it or dont
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Sep 17 2010 10:09am
Quote (minifoot @ 17 Sep 2010 17:06)
you cant have more or less cbf ... you either have it or dont


i can choose to have it only on shield, that doesnt answer to my question.
main thing is, peace seems too good to be switched by spirit shroud, but i dno.
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Sep 17 2010 11:27am
Quote (baboun @ Sep 17 2010 10:58am)
nice guide

few questions :

1/ is peace all the time viable ? nn having 200 items in stash.therefore, it saves 1 skill from crit. good idea?
2/ robo > rogue ? i mean.. ga cost is damn high zzz 3bow skills could helps a bit
3/ is cbf from shield enough ? or should i take death belt aswell ?



u give thoses 20 ias gloves ?


Yes it's viable, I just chose not to use it because I believe the stats on spirit shroud allow for more than peace. +1 skill over it isn't a huge deal, and you get the choice of a socket as well as the base stats. I don't like having cbf on shield only, mainly due to sorc's that use frost nova. If I'm trying to use bow against them, I'm wide open to being frozen. Spirit shroud also allows you to be dependent on stats from belt, and you don't need swaps there for death's. My 8 str, 60 life, tri-res belt can be used against the majority of characters, swapping out for string with sander's and twitch against physical characters. That gives me an 84 life gain just from belt.

Skills on plague: You need a good damage plague, but if that's all you rely on to deal damage then you will have a hard time killing characters that deal damage quickly (chargers, sorc's, wwbabas, good kickers). I like to maintain between 9.5 and 10k plague damage, which is possible without peace. I skilled both jab and crit strike and I'm still hitting that with spirit shroud.

Bow: Robo is very usable, I just have not made one. Rogues is far cheaper and I like the 10 allres and additional DS. I have 63% DS atm at 9fpa. a 3 shael'd robo would do more damage at less mana cost.

This is what I'm working with atm, can be improved but works well.



This post was edited by Cadagan on Sep 17 2010 11:31am
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Sep 17 2010 11:28am
peace is for l8z nubs
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Yes it's viable, I just chose not to use it because I believe the stats on spirit shroud allow for more than peace. +1 skill over it isn't a huge deal, and you get the choice of a socket as well as the base stats. I don't like having cbf on shield only, mainly due to sorc's that use frost nova. If I'm trying to use bow against them, I'm wide open to being frozen. Spirit shroud also allows you to be dependent on stats from belt, and you don't need swaps there for death's. My 8 str, 60 life, tri-res belt can be used against the majority of characters, swapping out for string with sander's and twitch against physical characters. That gives me an 84 life gain just from belt.

Skills on plague: You need a good damage plague, but if that's all you rely on to deal damage then you will have a hard time killing characters that deal damage quickly (chargers, sorc's, wwbabas, good kickers). I like to maintain between 9.5 and 10k plague damage, which is possible without peace. I skilled both jab and crit strike and I'm still hitting that with spirit shroud.

Bow: Robo is very usable, I just have not made one. Rogues is far cheaper and I like the 10 allres and additional DS. I have 63% DS atm at 9fpa. a 3 shael'd robo would do more damage at less mana cost.

This is what I'm working with atm, can be improved but works well.
http://i52.tinypic.com/25i2k2u.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/wt9je0.jpg


thx, you convinced me :)
nice cuz i got a 24fhr 60 life + tri-res belt, string is important too
btw, do you ever use poison javelin ?
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Sep 17 2010 12:38pm
Quote (baboun @ Sep 17 2010 01:28pm)
thx, you convinced me :)
nice cuz i got a 24fhr 60 life + tri-res belt, string is important too
btw, do you ever use poison javelin ?


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Poison Overrides:
Cycling poison javs is a good way to keep the poison damage higher, an opponent at the very beginning of a duel will usually be pretty defensive vs your javs, and can make it very hard if you are trying to use plague instead of poison. Throwing poison javs first allows for more area to be covered, with no time delay. Once they get hit, most will charge in. After they do that, throw a plague jav, it will override the poison jav and start the "quick"-dealing damage.

PLR:
This is pretty easy, use poison jav against any plr. It just reduces plague so much.


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