my ghostsin has wof and maxed mind blast. 750-1000 hp and 650 mana. but most people didnt want to duel me after a couple of tries

theres a bunch of kickers on d2r but none use traps+mb from what ive seen. they just use talon/df.

expand, are they perma stun locked? is it chanceless? again, with the caveat that I have to try it myself, at HLD they look to be capping Mindblast to lower levels (10 or 1), would suggest you see if with level 1 mindblast your ghost can use the skills elsewhere and still be sick, but more palatable to your opponents.

a well known trapper was horrified to see the idea of kick skills being banned. I would tend to agree. just need to find a happy compromise.

Does maxed BOS + a 70% ias claw really not do anything outside of the original d2og (ias trap laying breakpoints)?

what weapon(s) is your ghost using ? In terms of Open Wounds how OP is it for assa currently with all this unblockable stuff.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2021 09:34am

using ghost sin:

if i dont hold back and use every skill, its chanceless on druid, sorc, necro, and zon. even moreso than trapper. insanely strong kicks and its very easy to catch people with trap-mb-df->talon. without using mb, druid/necro get much harder (probably even at a disadvantage), but vs sorc/zon you still win easily.

barb matchup i dont know for sure because i only tested against 2 barbs (not the most geared. id need to test vs Pig to be sure). i barely win when i move around and play smartly, but i get annihilated if i stand still trying to shift-talon.

charger matchup is a coin toss but id say favoring sin (you can wof your feet and keep swirlies on them, so when they charge in, they can get stuck). however ive played against kickers on my charger and it wasnt a problem (probably because they didnt use traps+mb)

hdin matchup is much harder as a kicker than it is as a trapper, since you have to go in. ls trapper can just sit there and move around while traps do dmg. without mb id say its an impossible matchup for kicker.

i dont have any data for ghost vs trapper, so i kinda dont want to speculate. but i do know that many kickers have tried against my trapper and didnt win much. none of them have used traps+mb against me, so it isnt rly telling tbh.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 15 2021 09:48am

What about Level 1 in any Martial Arts Skill and Level 1 in Mindblast? for a ghost, play as a hybrid trap with 1 point wonder in MA tree ? you could have 2 kicks and still have very good trap damage. it sounds amazing the more i think about it lol. maybe wishful thinking but ill set my assassin up like that from tonight.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2021 09:54am

you mean restricting kickers to only 1 point in mind blast?
i think by definition, a ghost means it maxes (or invests a lot of point) in dragon talon in order to achieve higher kick amount. kick doesnt do much at only 1 kick amount. just in case you arent aware, you get +1 kick quantity at lvl 1, 6, 12, 18 and 24 (going from 1 to 5).

if you mean a trapper using kicks, thats a hybrid, not a ghost. (hybrid is focus on trap, ghost is focus on weapon skills using traps as stun support).

Yes, I mean a Hybrid. When I hear the term Ghost I usually imagine WW and Eth Repl Claws I must admit. What I meant was, would you try Max 1 hard point in skills in the MA tree which are currently unblockable. With +skills I already calc'd you can get 2 Kicks, with trap damage still high, your playing something that has a wide range of attack options, and is probably less cancer then level 20 mindblast.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2021 10:04am

thats what my sin is using right now. +1 circ, +1 ammy, 2 sojs and a vmagi to have 2 kicks. using sharkskin boots to bring that kick dmg up. i use a malice claw to get OW on your dfs. but talon itself isnt used in most matchups, evenless so if i dont use mindblast. but with mb, its useful vs hammerdin, chargers, cs zons, other trappers.
but tbh the strength of the class isnt the kick rly, its the traps i could be a pure trapper with sander boots and +2trap circ/ammy and id duel the same way for 95% my duels. the kicks are just for fanciness and those niche situations really. im rly digging the malice+5ls claw/claw strategy, its a cool tool vs ES sorc & bone necros. you sacrifice a lot of trap dmg but it really changes the play style of going in when its safe.

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 15 2021 10:17am

without malice your only source would be belt right ? remember i am trying to balance. "i kill everything" is only ok when the opponents are bad.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2021 10:20am

for claw/claw setup, yes.
but there are plenty of OW sources for non-claw setup: Steel rw, Swordback, The Gnasher, Blood Crescent, Skull Splitter.

weapons and shields right?

i dont have a view, im just trying to tease it out.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 15 2021 10:25am