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Nov 19 2009 08:13am
Quote (maximus_le_roi @ 19 Nov 2009 15:06)
nn irony

everyone seems suprised michel won, but when barb can tank over 10 blizzs + defwhore and needs 1 ww to kill sorc, I'm not that surprised.
Michel would probably have 5-0'd me if he hadn't make small error ( long ww instead of short ww for example )


relax man

remember: U can tele, blizz has more than "3 range" and baba cant do "inv ww fields"

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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ Nov 19 2009 03:08pm)
es > vita in general, especially vs barbs


yup I noticed it, with crap equip I lost 5-4 to dylandou ( or something like that ) es build.
there, with "good" equip, I lost 5-2 to michel vita build.
considering dylandou > michel, es build is far better than vita one to duels barb.
I think I'm gonna remake my blizz into es^^ with new stuff, I would hit 2k mana + imo ( instead of 1,4 k, like my old sorc "Impressed" )
I thought vita would be better, but I realised that overall es stay >
Just need decent stuff/mana.

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she was good only for tvt. 3 k dmg blows m8, I know wat I'm talking about..

Quote (Tornazzo @ Nov 19 2009 03:13pm)
relax man

remember: U can tele, blizz has more than "3 range" and  baba cant do "inv ww fields"


relax ? I don't rage m8, I just explain some things, cause it's easy to say blizz > barb when you don't play blizz.
Btw, as I play window, I don't have that high range, and if barb try to anticipate teles, he can try to make randoom wws, and if he success, it's auto win.

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yup I noticed it, with crap equip I lost 5-4 to dylandou ( or something like that ) es build.
there, with "good" equip, I lost 5-2 to michel vita build.
considering dylandou > michel, es build is far better than vita one to duels barb.
I think I'm gonna remake my blizz into es^^ with new stuff, I would hit 2k mana + imo ( instead of 1,4 k, like my old sorc "Impressed" )
I thought vita would be better, but I realised that overall es stay >
Just need decent stuff/mana.



she was good only for tvt. 3 k dmg blows m8, I know wat I'm talking about..


i tried both dmg and es builds. if you go for es, you need more mana, so you can use less skillers, so dmg is lower.
yes since i used the blizz mostly for tvt the -res setup was better since everyone of the other team had to get res or else die in a few hits.
but also in 1v1 you need res which makes your char weaker.
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i tried both dmg and es builds. if you go for es, you need more mana, so you can use less skillers, so dmg is lower.
yes since i used the blizz mostly for tvt the -res setup was better since everyone of the other team had to get res or else die in a few hits.
but also in 1v1 you need res which makes your char weaker.


how much mana would you advice me ?

the pb with - res build is that if your opponent stack you, you're - res are useless. well he get weaker by stacking your res, but he also make you weaker, don't forget it. I agree - res build is better for tvt, but dmg build is better for 1v1, and overall dmg build is better.
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how much mana would you advice me ?

the pb with - res build is that if your opponent stack you, you're - res are useless. well he get weaker by stacking your res, but he also make you weaker, don't forget it. I agree - res build is better for tvt, but dmg build is better for 1v1, and overall dmg build is better.


at least 2.3k in my experience.
250 res is max allowed m8, i have over -350 res so your enemy will have -100 res. that's 200% more dmg. :)
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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ Nov 19 2009 03:26pm)
at least 2.3k in my experience.
250 res is max allowed m8, i have over -350 res so your enemy will have -100 res. that's 200% more dmg. :)


barb can use 300

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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ 19 Nov 2009 15:26)
at least 2.3k in my experience.
250 res is max allowed m8, i have over -350 res so your enemy will have -100 res. that's 200% more dmg. :)


max s trackres is 250,
250+75=325 --> 325-350 = -25 --> +33.33%

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Quote (Perserker[PvP] @ Nov 19 2009 03:26pm)
at least 2.3k in my experience.
250 res is max allowed m8, i have over -350 res so your enemy will have -100 res. that's 200% more dmg. :)


How come you had - 350 res ? oO

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barb can use 300


+ raven...

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max s trackres is 250,
250+75=325 --> 325-350 = -25 --> +33.33%

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uhh

its total res so even the 33% in included
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Quote (maximus_le_roi @ Nov 19 2009 02:06pm)
nn irony

everyone seems suprised michel won, but when barb can tank over 10 blizzs + defwhore and needs 1 ww to kill  sorc, I'm not that surprised.
Michel would probably have 5-0'd me if he hadn't make small error ( long ww instead of short ww for example )


i needed 2 ww's ^
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