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May 24 2019 12:09pm
Someone needs to summon topcat123 back to the realm.
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May 24 2019 12:11pm
Quote (lld_mayhem @ May 24 2019 01:09pm)
Someone needs to summon topcat123 back to the realm.



We already know who that was lol.

Multiple people had access
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May 24 2019 12:21pm
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How about just playing a better build instead of trying to build rules around a build so it dies slower?


Quote (Dongdale @ May 24 2019 12:06pm)
I mean you have to realize just because it’s an unfair matchup you can’t just use bm gear because you think it’s okay.

Otherwise i’ll start shoopin with a goh cause my charge damage is weak and that’s unfair to me



been trying to get this point across for too long, this is the argument that started our disagreement and eventually led to him rage quitting.

He also wanted to use the excuse that people dont have gear for max resist so they should be able to use bm items to make up for it.

I told him that the rules have been this way even b4 the anya bug, and that its bs to allow someone to use bm items because alot of us llders have spent alot of time and effort into making our llds what they are within the rules. but w/e im wasting my finger power here.







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May 24 2019 12:23pm
2019 lld is the same as 2009 lld tbh. half care more about fun and half cant have fun unless it's made competitive. welcome to LLD. whichever side you're on here's a quick guide to having fun:

step 1: log on
step 2: see if the comp is to your liking
step 3: play or log the fuck out

you know how many years i've heard fuckbois say they'll quit if i end up on their team with one of my wonky chars. 10. a full decade. years of unimaginative guide copycats playing c/c chars poorly but getting ears because dropping hammer fields or retreat trapping is fucking easy. o well, thus is life.

but there's a whole category of chars that aren't viable in 1v1, but are in tvt. and some of them have collected dust for a decade because tvt didn't exist at 30 on east. now it does, so you'll see more wonky chars. it's really that simple. but hey, good news, there's a whole subforum right here for people that don't like it:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=123

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 24 2019 12:24pm
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May 24 2019 12:25pm
Quote (cota @ May 24 2019 01:21pm)
been trying to get this point across for too long, this is the argument that started our disagreement and eventually led to him rage quitting.

He also wanted to use the excuse that people dont have gear for max resist so they should be able to use bm items to make up for it.

I told him that the rules have been this way even b4 the anya bug, and that its bs to allow someone to use bm items because alot of us llders have spent alot of time and effort into making our llds what they are within the rules. but w/e im wasting my finger power here.



I mean.

I do get what he’s saying only cause I relate.

I had super shitty characters for the longest time and could never compete with fully built characters

So cutting corners is what you would do.

But this nigga has a full guide to v/t and I see the shit he’s bought he’s not poor so no excuse to use noko imo unless like you said. Agreed upon before
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May 24 2019 12:28pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 24 2019 01:23pm)
2019 lld is the same as 2009 lld tbh. half care more about fun and half cant have fun unless it's made competitive. welcome to LLD. whichever side you're on here's a quick guide to having fun:

step 1: log on
step 2: see if the comp is to your liking
step 3: play or log the fuck out

you know how many years i've heard fuckbois say they'll quit if i end up on their team with one of my wonky chars. 10. a full decade. years of unimaginative guide copycats playing c/c chars poorly but getting ears because dropping hammer fields or retreat trapping is fucking easy. o well, thus is life.

but there's a whole category of chars that aren't viable in 1v1, but are in tvt. and some of them have collected dust for a decade because tvt didn't exist at 30 on east. now it does, so you'll see more wonky chars. it's really that simple. but hey, good news, there's a whole subforum right here for people that don't like it:

https://forums.d2jsp.org/forum.php?f=123



lol.

You not wrong.

But also. Competition is pretty high with the level of duelers still left. Well, some. Depending on who joins.

It’s not fun really dueling even your friends to just get slaughtered 1v3 every time

Literally depending on the person and character they use can greatly swing a tvt from raped to this is easy now
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May 24 2019 12:30pm
Damn and I thought I was annoying, wake up to 7 pages cuz of nokazam ammy.
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May 24 2019 12:31pm
Quote (QueeF @ May 24 2019 01:30pm)
Damn and I thought I was annoying, wake up to 7 pages cuz of nokazam ammy.



You’re not annoying we miss you bruh

Come tvt soon
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Quote (Dongdale @ May 24 2019 12:28pm)
lol.

You not wrong.

But also. Competition is pretty high with the level of duelers still left. Well, some. Depending on who joins.

It’s not fun really dueling even your friends to just get slaughtered 1v3 every time

Literally depending on the person and character they use can greatly swing a tvt from raped to this is easy now


100%. my thing is this tho. put ted on a tele cs zon and that team beats any average team even with a massive handicap.

the other night i lost like 20 2s matches in a row because the Hdin on my team is clearly brand new to lld and couldn't sync, at all. not any syncing. but i didnt ask for a swap, i was testing and he's clearly learning. o well.

focusing on the team comp seems a bit silly, if anything baddies should be banned. not that i want to do either.

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Quote (Avenged123 @ May 24 2019 11:01am)
There’s no real way to balance lld teams unless we do mirror matches tbh, but fury dudu’s and v/t’s just become a crutch especially if the other is pretty stacked. Like sorc/hdin/zon which Is pretty common



I can’t think of a single time I’ve been disabling to a team because I happened to be on my Druid. I can only recall being begged to get my plaguer and then racking up kills on my fury. If I’m doing poorly in a specific build I’ll switch. I’m just not usually doing poorly on fury so I feel no need to switch. Being demeaned for wanting to duel takes the fun out of things and makes people worse duelers because it takes the joy out of things. Who wants to try hard to help a team win when that team consists of people belittling you? I think that behavior is the larger problem in overall number of victories and team harmony rather than someone using a noko or hard skilling amp. It’s also a major thing with folks like Danzeva who does fine when he’s on a team that gives him friendship style support rather than in a game where he’s being bullied.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on May 24 2019 12:39pm
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