Necs' @ eu can and have beaten es sorc's. blizz probably hardest. fire golum and max damage makes dueling vs esfb doable. i dont think a nec dueled vs a blizz @ 30 in a long time
Druid vs trap i have never actually done, actually no one@ EU has dueled vs tele dudu afaik !???
trapper does not need max trap damage @ 30 since there are no abs items. i think angelo used a hybrid to get success vs bowa's.

pretty sure he meant in favour of ama.

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 10 2016 07:21pm

Servers need to cum back up in anxious as fuck

Iso this patch notes back we could use some more changes to core game mechanic's to work off some if this drunk tension.

Yes

I'm too drunk to make anything normal

Maybe 1 kill if lucky.... Ft5 it would never end up with Nec on top.

And yes zon rekt a trapper.

And Druid has no chance vs trapper lol even in tvt it's a shit show

bed

It's only 7:25 pm grandma

This post was edited by TheWeirdOne on Mar 10 2016 07:26pm

Euro

nec shouldnt win that matchup, regardless of spec. as i talked about earlier, you have pretty much 1 shot of succeeding (aside from ibs trains) and that is provoking the sorc into a stomp where you can get the first hit off and fhr her (if vita) or spirit bomb from nl'd spirits and hope it kills (works vs vita and es both). your sorc players need to pay more attention instead of assuming its the free win that it is, you still gotta get the ear for it to count.

dvt is rough, cuz of the fhr available @ 30 with no spirit sword on a class that has shitty fhr frames & breaks already. without wsg you dont beat a trapper on druid, ever. hell, the druid can recast cyclone and still lose the match more often than not.

trap vs bow the trapper can throw 1pt into kicks and get all up in the ass of a zon pretty well, it will definitely make it hard on the zon. but the zon should still win.

This post was edited by meegz1 on Mar 10 2016 07:28pm

On nec vs sorc it really depends how agressivethe sorc is, or perhaps more accurately how impatient. Yes you can win matches (ive killed plenty) but a good sorc in a tour should still win most. Not that there is anything wrong with that. Every build doesnt have to be able to beat every other build. Nothing weong with rock paper scissors.