Quote (Cadagan @ Apr 3 2011 11:49am)

Assuming roughly 50-570 ga damage

against a char using string + vmagi.

28 mdr. 28 mdr / .17= 164 (rounded down) damage reduced. The ele dmg from sojs is 2-24. After .25 and .17 reductions = 1 damage max, most of the time, not even that. Even 23 light damage = <1.

Now, 164 * .17 =  27.88 damage loss (pvp)

Your average ga damage if 50% crit = 465 screen damage or 79.05 pvp damage. 79 damage - 27 mdr loss = 52 damage.

So therefore, you are doing an average of ~52 physical damage IF you hit. @ 7.5 mana ga cost because you decided to use a bow that didn't have +3 bnc skills.

Restatting my plaguer with 10 fpa ashwood (just did it after I posted)
870 life, max res, 243 mana, 105 frw, 8k plague, 18k poison, 30% mana regen, and 75-785 ga damage @ 6.5 ga cost.

@ 43% crit, 75-785 damage. That's 614.9 average ga damage. Round it down to 614 and take off 164 damage = 450 screen. 450*.17 = 76.5 pvp damage per hit. That's doing half again what rogues does, and much less chance of being nerfed out completely by mdr and dr.

10 fpa = 2.5 atks per second 76 * 2.5 = 190
8fpa = 3.12 atks per second. 52 * 3.12 = 162.24


They will chase you, you can't sit back and just spam. Once they get poisoned they get very very offensive. You don't have time to shoot off more than 1-2 arrow at a time as is. There is NO NEED for 8 fpa. 8fpa on bowas is used to kill sorcs, with a sorc it's just better to swap to peace and get 11k plague damage and still maintain 660 ga damage or 540 rogues damage while using peace.


Therefore, ~250 mana is fine. Use eth'd shield and have lenymo/manald's swap for long duels. Rogues is a bad bow for hybrid.

Quote (Cadagan @ Apr 3 2011 04:49pm)

Assuming roughly 50-570 ga damage

against a char using string + vmagi.

28 mdr. 28 mdr / .17= 164 (rounded down) damage reduced. The ele dmg from sojs is 2-24. After .25 and .17 reductions = 1 damage max, most of the time, not even that. Even 23 light damage = <1.

Now, 164 * .17 =  27.88 damage loss (pvp)

Your average ga damage if 50% crit = 465 screen damage or 79.05 pvp damage. 79 damage - 27 mdr loss = 52 damage.

So therefore, you are doing an average of ~52 physical damage IF you hit. @ 7.5 mana ga cost because you decided to use a bow that didn't have +3 bnc skills.

Restatting my plaguer with 10 fpa ashwood (just did it after I posted)
870 life, max res, 243 mana, 105 frw, 8k plague, 18k poison, 30% mana regen, and 75-785 ga damage @ 6.5 ga cost.

@ 43% crit, 75-785 damage. That's 614.9 average ga damage. Round it down to 614 and take off 164 damage = 450 screen. 450*.17 = 76.5 pvp damage per hit. That's doing half again what rogues does, and much less chance of being nerfed out completely by mdr and dr.

10 fpa = 2.5 atks per second 76 * 2.5 = 190
8fpa = 3.12 atks per second. 52 * 3.12 = 162.24


They will chase you, you can't sit back and just spam. Once they get poisoned they get very very offensive. You don't have time to shoot off more than 1-2 arrow at a time as is. There is NO NEED for 8 fpa. 8fpa on bowas is used to kill sorcs, with a sorc it's just better to swap to peace and get 11k plague damage and still maintain 660 ga damage or 540 rogues damage while using peace.


Therefore, ~250 mana is fine. Use eth'd shield and have lenymo/manald's swap for long duels. Rogues is a bad bow for hybrid.

Quote (Cadagan @ Apr 3 2011 05:49pm)

Assuming roughly 50-570 ga damage

against a char using string + vmagi.

28 mdr. 28 mdr / .17= 164 (rounded down) damage reduced. The ele dmg from sojs is 2-24. After .25 and .17 reductions = 1 damage max, most of the time, not even that. Even 23 light damage = <1.

Now, 164 * .17 =  27.88 damage loss (pvp)

Your average ga damage if 50% crit = 465 screen damage or 79.05 pvp damage. 79 damage - 27 mdr loss = 52 damage.

So therefore, you are doing an average of ~52 physical damage IF you hit. @ 7.5 mana ga cost because you decided to use a bow that didn't have +3 bnc skills.

Restatting my plaguer with 10 fpa ashwood (just did it after I posted)
870 life, max res, 243 mana, 105 frw, 8k plague, 18k poison, 30% mana regen, and 75-785 ga damage @ 6.5 ga cost.

@ 43% crit, 75-785 damage. That's 614.9 average ga damage. Round it down to 614 and take off 164 damage = 450 screen. 450*.17 = 76.5 pvp damage per hit. That's doing half again what rogues does, and much less chance of being nerfed out completely by mdr and dr.

10 fpa = 2.5 atks per second 76 * 2.5 = 190
8fpa = 3.12 atks per second. 52 * 3.12 = 162.24


They will chase you, you can't sit back and just spam. Once they get poisoned they get very very offensive. You don't have time to shoot off more than 1-2 arrow at a time as is. There is NO NEED for 8 fpa. 8fpa on bowas is used to kill sorcs, with a sorc it's just better to swap to peace and get 11k plague damage and still maintain 660 ga damage or 540 rogues damage while using peace.


Therefore, ~250 mana is fine. Use eth'd shield and have lenymo/manald's swap for long duels. Rogues is a bad bow for hybrid.

Quote (Dwerfs @ Apr 3 2011 10:56am)

rofl he's still arguing

carlo speaks the truth

saying your stats does not matters at all btw, there are a lot of possible builds and plaguezon req many switch items

but 350 mana is really the minimum lol u better stop arguing on this bro

Quote (Cadagan @ Apr 3 2011 06:04pm)

It's good to see you can't back up anything you say with numbers/videos/dueling. Just repeating the same thing over and over implies you just trying really hard to troll.

Quote (Mr_Puddles @ Apr 3 2011 05:52pm)

tl;dr someone find a guxi bow with light dmg

Quote (CarloAnalo @ Apr 3 2011 12:54pm)

5 sox ceremonial with 5x ptopaz is bestest for shuu

Quote (Mr_Puddles @ Apr 3 2011 05:54pm)

wat

Quote (CarloAnalo @ Apr 3 2011 04:52pm)

i never had probs to kill any1 with my bow, and duels were way faster and less boring then just psn - run - run - run - run - shoot 1 arrow - win