Quote (bonnerf2 @ Mar 7 2017 03:04pm)

Yeah :S It was you me and Adam vs Dan Tommi and a hdin (Flo perhaps?). I hate having to resort to using a trapper but in that case it was needed haha.

Quote (Twinsen @ Mar 7 2017 04:29pm)

Fb vs bowa is imbalanced at 30 imo at least with es like I played with in tour.
Ofc bowa can win but then it's the fb that makes mistakes, otherwise it doesn't matter how flawless the zon plays.
Duel'd ferdia, obstgarten and harabec for example with 30 fb vs 30 bowa. They were all great on bowas imo and they didn't do much mistakes but at 30 with es you can simply just tk stomp and outtank. Amp + kb on bowa vs tele chars might help a little or not allowing sorc max block if she has es active.



Tomminator such a mean barb :b
I didn't play for long in that tvt, but during that time flo was on necro.

Quote (TShaman @ Mar 7 2017 05:20pm)

Yeah i know its massively in favor of the ES sorc but when im far from flawless it is hard to judge from my own experience alone. KB would definently help! But since kb gloves are also banned and swapping an FPA(30ias poon) aint worth it dps wise. But Amp is pretty much nulified by teleport as u could just go offscreen untill amp dissapears. Other than that frw/repl could help a ton to juke the fireballs/tk locks but its capped at 100% and 10% as of now

Quote (bonnerf2 @ Mar 7 2017 05:24pm)

I'll practice with you tonight if you like? Would be good for me too.

Quote (bonnerf2 @ Mar 7 2017 04:04pm)

Yeah :S It was you me and Adam vs Dan Tommi and a hdin (Flo perhaps?). I hate having to resort to using a trapper but in that case it was needed haha.

Quote (TShaman @ Mar 7 2017 04:20pm)

Yeah i know its massively in favor of the ES sorc but when im far from flawless it is hard to judge from my own experience alone. KB would definently help! But since kb gloves are also banned and swapping an FPA(30ias poon) aint worth it dps wise. But Amp is pretty much nulified by teleport as u could just go offscreen untill amp dissapears. Other than that frw/repl could help a ton to juke the fireballs/tk locks but its capped at 100% and 10% as of now

Quote (Twinsen @ Mar 7 2017 06:22am)

hmm? ^^The only east player ive played against in a ft5 the last 2 years or so was riox and it was in a mld tour iirc.
Random tvts I wouldn't count.. I die far more often in tvts than in 1v1s
if you are in a 1v2-3 situation I sometimes cba to drag it out and just suicide.

Quote (Twinsen @ Mar 7 2017 10:48am)

you are right about amp but if you get lucky and 2 arrows in a row hit and the first is amp, then that will do some serious dmg but yea not worth it unless you can find a insane 8 fpa amp rare bow that is equal to a robo and harpoons with amp and 30 ias :D Near impossible iso if you are not sepulba.
kb would help to make it harder for sorc or druid to stomp. I don't think frank would mind allowing kb vs tele chars if he host a tour or ladder.

Try out lightning bolt + swordback ( lb always hits + swordback 50% ow, at mld/hld that work wonders vs es sorcs. But at 30 ow drains life very slowly.. but if you get alot of lb hits here and there ( plus you kb the sorc while you do it ) and get some ga's hits and focus on avoiding fbs.
Rep cap should at least be 20 for zon if sorcs can use 10.