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Dec 20 2021 03:17am
Quote (kenwas @ Dec 20 2021 03:51am)
Ween is this patch expected ?

ptr will be released first. i expect more than 1 month off.
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Dec 20 2021 08:38am
The most game breaking thing I see upfront for LLD is the assassin charges

If vlld TS sins get 3 charged hits then it’s game the fuck over lmao

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The most game breaking thing I see upfront for LLD is the assassin charges

If vlld TS sins get 3 charged hits then it’s game the fuck over lmao

i HOPE martial sin becomes a thing! (not kick) but i doubt itd be good, simply because our current punchers arent good in open 30, like zealer / conc barb/ fury / mauler.

what i think will truely become broken are trappers and pnb necros. they said they wanted same dmg, but being less skill-point starved builds. so that means they intend to reduce the number of synergies, but increase the dmg bonus from each point. so that means that for us LLDers, those few handful of skillpoints we use in synergies now have increased values.

imagine current ls trapper and pnb with a casual extra +20 to 25% dmg of our current patch o.o (i assume that would be the new number if they want to go from 4 or 5 synergies to 3 or 4)

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i HOPE martial sin becomes a thing! (not kick) but i doubt itd be good, simply because our current punchers arent good in open 30, like zealer / conc barb/ fury / mauler.

what i think will truely become broken are trappers and pnb necros. they said they wanted same dmg, but being less skill-point starved builds. so that means they intend to reduce the number of synergies, but increase the dmg bonus from each point. so that means that for us LLDers, those few handful of skillpoints we use in synergies now have increased values.

imagine current ls trapper and pnb with a casual extra +20 to 25% dmg of our current patch o.o (i assume that would be the new number if they want to go from 4 or 5 synergies to 3 or 4)



Oh god I didn’t even think of that. Yeah if they decrease the amount of “hard points” needed to synergize skills, then LLD is about to be super wonky lmao
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Oh god I didn’t even think of that. Yeah if they decrease the amount of “hard points” needed to synergize skills, then LLD is about to be super wonky lmao

and those kinda things are the hardest to balance a gm rule list around. the moment you start putting your hands into people's skillplan because it deals too much dmg, you start having half the people that just wont care and max things anyways.
i guess the short answer is; wait and see.

but im still super excited a bunch of useless things get a buff. any form of meta reshaping imo is a good thing. exploration is fun.
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no improvements for one of the lowest tier lld classes the cs zon :'( they are so massively op in regular pvm/high level I guess they just didn't want/need to tweak it at all. Geez, bottom tier build just got even bottomier!!
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no improvements for one of the lowest tier lld classes the cs zon :'( they are so massively op in regular pvm/high level I guess they just didn't want/need to tweak it at all. Geez, bottom tier build just got even bottomier!!


they did say they planned to reduce skill starvation of the jav tree :D
psn was made crystal clear, but my guess is itd touch both light and psn.
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no improvements for one of the lowest tier lld classes the cs zon :'( they are so massively op in regular pvm/high level I guess they just didn't want/need to tweak it at all. Geez, bottom tier build just got even bottomier!!


Just stay away from alpha tier duelers and you're fine
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Dec 20 2021 09:13am
Quote (MrHandsome @ 20 Dec 2021 10:03)
Just stay away from alpha tier duelers and you're fine


I’d like to make esfb next to assert dominance over those noobies also

Quote (WereWolf12345 @ 20 Dec 2021 10:02)
they did say they planned to reduce skill starvation of the jav tree :D
psn was made crystal clear, but my guess is itd touch both light and psn.


That would be sweet haha. Time will tell

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Quote (MrHandsome @ Dec 20 2021 10:03am)
Just stay away from alpha tier duelers and you're fine

what about cosmic tier?
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