I agree to all of the above. Looking like allowing insight will be a huge positive

Also thinking back on what you said about druid, that’s probably the best way of going about it, allowing bo with barb and amp with necro seems perfect, in which case maybe ba recast would be allowed, that sounds ideal



Dang we should have definitely rolled with that last time, rip. This next one already seems like it’s going to be on another level of gg though with insight being allowed thank you for letting me know beast. What’s your preferred 3rd tournament btw?

Should we make a separate thread for a character tier list?

No reason for character list for fpk, the point is for it to be fun/balance , the 4 classes that are already do that w/ no strain.

Whoaaa 3rd Lld tourney?!

I think keeping same rules as your last one but not forcing a tele swap is best. Some chars would rather just get out of bp by their own means rather than sacrifice unlimited mana. I don’t even know if bp should be allowed as it kind of benefits barbs more than anyone lol and they are already op. I mean damn what are you going to do vs barb + bone prison

Prison in hld mainly destroys the barb at least in fpk.

It literally is so good against them

Hit checks disappear in the prison basically making you get away free a lot of the time

This post was edited by herpesfreesince03 on Jan 28 2021 06:35am

Lot's of good ideas here tbh

dope idea re bo'ing druid allowed as a way of balancing. And yea no Bowa in B tier, unsure about banning plague altogether but highly possible, and unsure about banning trap but very likely banning MB at the very least so stuff like nado has a shot.

I love the idea of you running your own tourney instead of just complaining about how I do it. I know you have some ideas for things people would play.



At the end of the day I'd love to do a couple of these (and not just one of them), but just like last July, how many of these I can run really depends on how hard y'all make it on me to run them. The fpk tourney went incredibly smooth, no one involved there caused any drama, it was a dream. The duels were fun to do and were fun to watch. just threw me 9.1k fg to host something so ultimately he will get the final say in what we end up playing, but I bet he'd split the pot and run two tourneys back to back or something if needed.

i wasn't complaining? i was stating facts. i mentioned things you did that were very questionable, some of which resulted in other people having to take action because of it. again, i love how you take everything from me so seriously even if its something i "discussed" in a "discussion" topic, but then expect me to take you trolling me as a joke and be cool with utterly retarded shit like you ignoring proof of avenged dodging and trying to give him #1 just because you don't like me, shit the only reason you dislike me is because i discussed rules in a rule discussion topic and the majority of ppl agreed with me and your tourney fell to shit when you still went against what the majority of ppl wanted.

The b-tier tourney didnt have any drama either incase you don't remember, everyone loved it. as far as b tier goes the only change from the last tourneys rules is bow should not be allowed, even if crossbow because in all honesty the only xbow zon that exists can preform just as good as 90% of bow zons. it's obviously no marle, not even a wasp, but its better than the avg bowa.

its all gravy babys

2v2 b or s tier

rolling over my winnings from 1st tourny, 3150 for the next tourny

i dont entirely disagree but its HIGHLY matchup dependent. 14 fpa is no joke. like ya it still eats trapper up, but any matchup where u have to kite its severely worse. and in zvz its really bad, obviously. i tend to think its worse vs pnb by a good margin. vs nado idk, might do ok, but u cant get as many 2 arrow kites in if they're chasing and takes twice as long to kill off pets. vs barb its only made ok via KB if they tele it loses.

but overall in a solid B tier meta its a great build. still think the Dclaw sin was the better of my 2 chars in that tourney by a good amount.