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Jan 13 2021 01:53pm
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Jan 13 2021 01:49pm)
the line reads +ww 3os +life basically

The helms are still rare, don't get me wrong; but they also suffered from the "not in the pickits" issue that alot of other stuff has suffered from.

Kinda like in 2007 rare tele staves didn't exist, now they are 50 fg per? Not quite the same since WW is a tough spawn but you get the idea im sure.


yup same with ctc amp items, no one knew i guess how to code that for WAY too long lol

Quote (Belarathon @ Jan 13 2021 01:49pm)
Probably referring to it as artificial since it was rolled with hacked programs rather than naturally found. Of course anything bought on jsp is found by hack programs too (bots) and could thus be categorized equally, guess it just depends where you draw the line personally.


ya i never knew if it meant bot or if it was more like how a +oak nado helm requires cube manipulation. but shouldnt as 3 os, life, and ww are all on the same plane of mods.
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Jan 13 2021 02:11pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 13 2021 02:53pm)
yup same with ctc amp items, no one knew i guess how to code that for WAY too long lol



ya i never knew if it meant bot or if it was more like how a +oak nado helm requires cube manipulation. but shouldnt as 3 os, life, and ww are all on the same plane of mods.


I think its the same as a lot of lvl 30 items, the ilvl you need to get to it puts it into the realm of affixes with above lvl 30 req far more frequently, and i'm not sure how you'd use the oak manipulation of higher level items and cubing them for lower ilvl (is that qlvl that does that? i cant fuckin remember)

if you wanted lvl 18 conc barb primal helms you'd have a far easier time on your pickits than the lvl 30 stuff, if i had to guess.
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Jan 13 2021 02:31pm
Quote (meegz1 @ Jan 13 2021 02:11pm)
I think its the same as a lot of lvl 30 items, the ilvl you need to get to it puts it into the realm of affixes with above lvl 30 req far more frequently, and i'm not sure how you'd use the oak manipulation of higher level items and cubing them for lower ilvl (is that qlvl that does that? i cant fuckin remember)

if you wanted lvl 18 conc barb primal helms you'd have a far easier time on your pickits than the lvl 30 stuff, if i had to guess.


Yes i believe that's it. WW is extremely restricted, 60-80 life is a difficult spawn, and then 3 os on top of that, forget automods, its a tough ask. interested to see if andy can snag one with 60+ life.
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