[QUOTE=spark_peka,Jun 14 2013 05:46pm]@addesmile
First you accept some balance proposing frw cap for ama, now you say change rules is stupid.
Am I wrong or my argument for frw cap was correct ?



Id like to see you dancing with any char except charger vs my bowa.



you mean only fun character is ama , right ?
probably ye , other can just "give a good match vs her"

This tour ruls is to make a tour that is not ZvZ. Idea is to make balanced classes attendance.



So far I just saw bowa players (guest highter braket), not other classes.

Summary:

This start to sound like ~~HEY I WANNA JOIN TOUR BUT LET ME PLAY BOWA AS USUAL SO I CAN KIEL

As I wrote , if people think bowa cannot win duels with these rules - I will play that tour with an ama.
As I wrote , im up for test-duels , anychar vs anychar[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]@addesmile
First you accept some balance proposing frw cap for ama, now you say change rules is stupid.
Am I wrong or my argument for frw cap was correct ?[/QUOTE]
the rule to only allow walk is so dumb, take away a big part of difference between a good and a bad player and makes the bowa rly weak against a lot of characters.
Mobility is #1.

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Id like to see you dancing with any char except charger vs my bowa.
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Ok pm me

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you mean only fun character is ama , right ?
probably ye , other can just "give a good match vs her"

This tour ruls is to make a tour that is not ZvZ. Idea is to make balanced classes attendance.
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Frw cap will balance the fights she have a huge advantage.


[QUOTE]So far I just saw bowa players (guest highter braket), not other classes.
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cuz there's like 3 competitive characters in lvl 18, rly.
pala
ama
necro
rest is just mediocre/bad
most ppl want have every edge to win a tournament. Unless you know you wont be in top spot, then ppl dont give a f-ck

[QUOTE]Summary:

This start to sound like ~~HEY I WANNA JOIN TOUR BUT LET ME PLAY BOWA AS USUAL SO I CAN KIEL[/QUOTE]
I played thrower in a east tournament, I won all my matches and few vs bowas which are prolly one of the hardest match up.

As I wrote , if people think bowa cannot win duels with these rules - I will play that tour with an ama.
As I wrote , im up for test-duels , anychar vs anychar[/QUOTE]

This post was edited by addesmile on Jun 17 2013 04:50am

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This post was edited by addesmile on Jun 17 2013 04:50am

@frw cap

only frw cap that makes sense is 0 , but that fuc*s all , cause most ppl have high circs based on 20 , and ck boots. Limiting this means 'get new items'
One more time cause you seem to ignore what i say. None good ama use more then 50 (70) frw. Tyler played with 50frw , I play with 50frw , You played with 70frw on guest char. (Pharao , Sa_Se , Borges , also 50frw).
More FRW is useless , so this capacity you proposed is fake-capacity.
And 100frw walk = 30frw run (this costs life , but its choice of player)



Thats is what I'd like to see in duel not in words.
edit: sry i wrote 'i wanna see you dancing'. I went unnecessarily mad cause my feeling when i play with bowa then opponent cannot do too much (so he dances).



This is in contradiction to your previous sentence.
And this is what I know , thats why I propose alternative rules to reduce power of ama/pal mostly.



For ppl who are more into lvl 18 duels then guest bowa players, it allowes to have fun not plaing 10 duels with amas or not signing up at all , cause vs zon tour.

I do not set rules for all duels , in other duels play as you want. this rules are written to lvl 18 players who has more then bowa on the account and wanna have fun.

I dont want to argue bout that , thanks for your feedback anyway.

Just try to be objective
GOAL is to choose character you like and have a chance for win , not choose character that has best odds for win.

This post was edited by spark_peka on Jun 17 2013 05:38am

I think I didnt post nothing here yet. Imo, the rules that were made agaisnt palas on last tour (no aura while charging) made the build very balanced, and totally not op. Under those rules, paladins are very beatable by almost all chars (even bowas).

About bowas, the only walking rule its going a bit too far imo, what about just 0-10 repl on them?? And I guess not allowing any kb on any of their weapons should be a nice rule. Cut their frw would make that there were a bunch of vita tanks, but could be also very positive for builds like the trower, the nec, and all kind of sins, as they all could outrun them easy.


And I may agree with Adde, 25 repl its too much for all kind of builds, lets lower it to 20 ^^.

i agree for the most part, but i would say just restrict kb on any bows, should be np on spears imo
lowering the max rep is a good idea, any quick char can easily rep most dmg back, even if not running away/hiding, just by avoiding hits
i didnt play last tourny so i dont know how the charging with no aura works out in reality, but sounds more fair and balanced

I'm glad I've found a couple hel's

ranger/charge/smite hybrid pala can use nef in bow?

i saw Georges pala has nef in bow. I made one in ladder and i would like to know that bm or no...

thx

its gm as far as i know.Mine use one ^^.

i think its totally fine, always nefd my rangers bow and noone complained
not to mention that you just need the kb in most fights to be viable with the bow from my experience

my decync ranger uses a nef'ed raven

no complaints from real lld'ers