normal to lose vs a firewaller noting the bug/glitch/feature re: ticks. maybe a ban on firemastery incoming if firewall ahaha
normal to lose vs a charger with that life and damage and noting the buff chargers have in d2r vs d2 (screen and charge changes).

outranging/offscreening a trapper is probably not a runner. its retarded and can be super long.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 2 2021 09:24am

imo firewall is working as intended. it did different dmg per second in d2c based on the angle cast. no way that was an intended feature. overpowered as fuck tho to be sure.

angle-bug also got fixed in d2r, but it also deals way more dmg'd compared to legacy LoD, regardless of angle.
tldr:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/qkmu63/fire_wall_in_d2r_is_more_than_just_fixed_it_is/

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 2 2021 09:37am

this seems like the correct answer.

thanks WereWolf

i will do a similar test, but using a lvl 30 D2 vs D2r. (but not today!)

ye that would make sense.
but regardless of what blizzard did in legacy, it was a half-solution because fw was shit when casted in a cross pattern. so that didnt work at all. however reading the comments, most people seem pleasantly surprised at that dmg buff because fw was practically never used in pvm / hld pvp.
so i think this dmg bump will stay o.o

ferdia recommended making fire mastery bm. i think itd be simpler to allow inferno strides or nokozan.

its really not simpler! but if mastery results in firewall being TOOO underpowered then yes that will ahve to be considered.

also for a period of time firewall was the way. i remember 7 firewall sorcs and a medi pala in foothills being the meta haha.

This post was edited by ferdia on Nov 2 2021 09:48am

hmm, an atlernative would be to ban ES on fw since they max warmth.

Infernos would prob be fine vs FW.
Nerfing FW just to make shitty builds do better vs it is a bad solution imo.

when i saw a youtube video titles "orb firewall the new meta?" i laughed hard. orb/fwall has been a preferred crusher build for decades and my fave build for an NM lld mfer.

was also either best build for LLD in D2classic or near best, top 3 to be sure.

just sucks they made it even more OP, likely by accident, wont fix it, and took the skill out of it at the same time.

early on i thought it had like autoaim because i was hitting fwalls i never hit in classic, but it was just dmg at angles and dmg overall being buffed so monsters melted that normally wouldnt.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Nov 2 2021 10:10am