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Oct 11 2010 08:22am
Quote (ferdia @ Oct 10 2010 02:41pm)
Can I see what everyone's opinions are on this? I'm really not comfortable playing with a user that has admitted to using an account that has been scammed. There seems to be a few arguments here, but it all boils down to 1 faction saying:

"everyone scams, whats the problem"

and another faction, which i would put myself in, saying:

"Im sorry, but what you have done is steal another users account, or benefit from the theft, so no, fuck off."


I believe if your going to lend out your account you have to always take the risk of being scammed. As for this statement "everyone scams, whats the problem" this is ultimately true almost every single person in the world has stolen something or scammed there way to get something without paying for it. People do it on a regular basis people pirate all kinds of stuff. If you tell me you have never stolen anything what so ever ill show you a lire. In regards to this statement "Im sorry, but what you have done is steal another users account, or benefit from the theft, so no, fuck off." Im sorry but they really don't care what your opinion is.

Was also reading throw the pages and some one said whats the difference between buying fg and buying items to scamming well there is a big difference.

If you pay fg for and item its like spending real money on an item. Weather it was not intended to be able to sell items in game for money is blizzards fault for not incorporating that type of system into the game. On the other hand when you scam thats like stealing some ones money or something from their house. Just because its a game it doesn't justify it being the right thing to do.


On a side note if d2jsp wasnt here and no site like it was around d2 would be retarded everything would revolve around Hrs and Soj and other rare items people would have accounts upon account of mfed items rotting waiting for some one to trade. I don't know about you but would you trade a buged tals armor for a full inventory of items like coa hrs etc i remember back before i used jsp trading like 40 hrs for perf coa who the hell has time to collect 40 hrs then find some one with the coa.

If you don't like the concept of d2jsp then why are you here? im not pointing this out to ferdia it was the guy that said the stuff about selling stuff vs fg and scamming.

i believe some scams/ thefts are good in my eyes it is ok to pirate stuff but if you going to scam people you play with and share a game with and you good buddy's what the hell are you doing you need to be smacked right. If you have the balls to steal from a friend then you are getting your self no where online or in real life.
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Oct 11 2010 08:29am
holy crap, cba to read all this 24 pages. Everything relationed with scamm should be punished, aka I agree with fer in not playing with those subjects. Also I dont think he killed mld lol, in fact he helped a lot to made mld alive till now. It's true that nowadays euro is going really really down, but I don't think mld is gonna die. I guess there will b tvt's far less often but they will continue happening.

ps: This discussion is kinda stupid. Why the hell we need 24 pages to discuss if playing with ppl that has something to do with scammed stuff is right or not. I thought the response was pretty obvious. I bet that on east they would have banned that guy without even needing a topic to discuss it lol.

e/ also very sad to see that conflict between fer, paul an dej :(

This post was edited by SirEdwards on Oct 11 2010 08:30am
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Oct 11 2010 08:31am
note the above paul (not ed's post), this user is totally unknown to me and has given you an objective view.

I am not saying that you have stolen accounts paul, what i am saying is that i am finding it very hard to reconcile with the fact that you are aiding someone who has benefitted from stealing from one of your friends.

re: ed's post:

Paul and Dej were both very good friends of mine up to this point, it was not easy for me to make this thread, or challenge them on their arguments.

This post was edited by ferdia on Oct 11 2010 08:33am
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Oct 11 2010 08:32am
Quote (LightFrog @ Oct 11 2010 03:44pm)
how does scamming improve the community? pls explain !

Well than royalton should give them back to the "scammer" and let the items get lost. Still better than all this beef .


are you serious ?

you seem to not understand 1% of this story so i make a summary once again just for you now :

Tr4dy scammed bow items
he gave to Royalton access to the bowa, means he also got access ofc ( pro logic skills)

they should just give carlos back his items, nothing more, nothing less, now stop fucking debating for nothing, all of you. -_-


ppl shouldnt talk about something they've never been involved

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Oct 11 2010 08:35am
yes. im done here as well.
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Oct 11 2010 08:35am
Quote (FoundNature @ Oct 11 2010 09:32am)
are you serious ?

you seem to not understand 1% of this story so i make a summary once again just for you now :

Tr4dy scammed bow items
he gave to Royalton access to the bowa, means he also got access ofc ( pro logic skills)

they should just give carlos back his items, nothing more, nothing less, now stop fucking debating for nothing, all of you. -_-


ppl shouldnt talk about something they've never been involved


baboun.
you have to stop typing like normal, too easy to tell.
what tipped me off; ( pro logic skills)
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Oct 11 2010 08:45am
Quote (CheeseEatah @ Oct 11 2010 04:35pm)
baboun.
you have to stop typing like normal, too easy to tell.
what tipped me off;  ( pro logic skills)


lol i dont get it.
hi though broseph.

royalton you fuckin damn piece of lost soul, have fun being condemned to beg everyone to duel your zon. :rofl:
i tell you once again = game over bro
my 150+ IQ cant be outsmarted
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Oct 11 2010 08:48am
Quote (FoundNature @ 11 Oct 2010 14:45)
lol i dont get it.
hi though broseph.

royalton you fuckin damn piece of lost soul, have fun being condemned to beg everyone to duel your zon. :rofl:
i tell you once again = game over bro
my 150+ IQ cant be outsmarted


You're right, since everyone quit and Fer is dumb enough to ban everyone from his tournament, nobody will be playing mld again on eu I guess. Tho I'm sure Paul and some more wlil still be able to play from time to time.
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Oct 11 2010 08:53am
i predict euro version of bilbo vs uhoh
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Oct 11 2010 09:04am
Ferdi, so far you monopolized the " power " you had there since Perz is left.

As you must have noticed, even if you gave your best to make the community better, interests for mld just decreased.

Can't you see you did something wrong ?

I think the only way to make mld revive @ euro is to do a transmission of power, or atleast share your power with others. That's why, unlike you, I found it very nice from baboun and dej to try to organize an alternative tournament.

Now you even dare to ban me & dej when we done so much for the community. This last time we were one of the few active. But you, where were you ? You're just giving your judgement/opinion for Something wich exceeds you, because you're concentrating the " power " all over you so you think you're legitimate.

The " Ferdia " Era is over, no offense. And this e-drama just revealed it : you lost control.
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