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Sep 8 2010 02:20am
Quote (peteyboy14 @ Sep 8 2010 05:23pm)
2x 30ed/9/9 for them helm,,


yeah i wanted to use some ed/ar/9/9's but i acually need ias if i wana use this with my eth rep sc
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Sep 8 2010 06:53am
Quote (wats_gud2 @ Sep 7 2010 11:01pm)
Chargers do enough dmg as it is...without even taking ds/cs into account. If you wanna use a plain +2pcomb/80 life ammy go for it. You're gonna have to eventually sacrifice some gear or charms to compensate for the loss of mana and resis.


Yes, I know, the gear you would need to sacrifice is:

Quote (Cadagan @ Sep 7 2010 08:33pm)
13 res = 3 sc's (for 15 res)
that's 9 max dmg
well loss in mana
that's another 7 sc's
21 dmg

30 max dmg loss if you tried to get same amount.


I think that 30max base damage (the damage lost from making up for res/mana with SCs) is actually less than the 5% bonus to final average damage that you gain from using an amulet without fire damage.

Also a 2/80 gives you 21 more life.
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Sep 8 2010 08:38am
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Sep 8 2010 07:53am)
Yes, I know, the gear you would need to sacrifice is:



I think that 30max base damage (the damage lost from making up for res/mana with SCs) is actually less than the 5% bonus to final average damage that you gain from using an amulet without fire damage.

Also a 2/80 gives you 21 more life.


lvl 25 charge (with 18 into synergies) (1060%ed)
lvl 22 might (250%ed)
base shield (65%ed can be used because of less res needed)

perfect honor naga
24'd pcrown
140 str
144 total max dmg from invo + maxer in pcrown

1211-5442 charge dmg (still less than gobb's somehow with same stats... I think he had max dmg on rings or something that I didn't add.

now dropping 30 max dmg off the total max to get

1211-4958

4958/5442 = 91.10% of previous damage.

Say it was just a 45 maxer plate with 45 allres that you were using to make up for it, instead of using gobb's 72/80. So only 27 max dmg loss with same gear as he's using on his charger fuzzi.

1211-5006

91.98% of previous. That's 436 screen damage, the same % loss would be over DS but even more screen damage.

6507 max dmg DS with 27 max loss
7074 max dmg DS with no max loss

567 screen damage loss. (same % ofc)


gobb's guide for reference: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36122608&f=143


edit: as a side note, use of cow kings would reduce the mdr glitch as I said before, and add 5 stats (lose 100 ar). 5 stats = 15 life.

This post was edited by Cadagan on Sep 8 2010 08:39am
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Sep 8 2010 08:45am
Quote (NewZealandD2 @ 8 Sep 2010 06:00)
My New Mld Zealot Helm ( Getting 2 x 30ed/15ias jewels for it as soon as someone comes along with theses )
Lmk what you guys think of it


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb90/kaelallen12/EthRepVis2socketGc.jpg


damn nice, imagine with more ed ^^
but is it rly better than guil ? i mean, papadins don't got any DS from skills, but i dno maybe you just need it for 30 ias

axe > helm 9/10 on that crescent n1
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Sep 8 2010 09:42am
Quote (Cadagan @ Sep 8 2010 02:38pm)
lvl 25 charge (with 18 into synergies) (1060%ed)
lvl 22 might (250%ed)
base shield (65%ed can be used because of less res needed)

perfect honor naga
24'd pcrown
140 str
144 total max dmg from invo + maxer in pcrown

1211-5442 charge dmg (still less than gobb's somehow with same stats... I think he had max dmg on rings or something that I didn't add.

now dropping 30 max dmg off the total max to get

1211-4958

4958/5442 = 91.10% of previous damage.

Say it was just a 45 maxer plate with 45 allres that you were using to make up for it, instead of using gobb's 72/80. So only 27 max dmg loss with same gear as he's using on his charger fuzzi.

1211-5006

91.98% of previous. That's 436 screen damage, the same % loss would be over DS but even more screen damage.

6507 max dmg DS with 27 max loss
7074 max dmg DS with no max loss

567 screen damage loss. (same % ofc)


gobb's guide for reference: http://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=36122608&f=143


edit: as a side note, use of cow kings would reduce the mdr glitch as I said before, and add 5 stats (lose 100 ar). 5 stats = 15 life.


I think you're using bad gear choice here. With an eth/rep bhammer and a 48max circlet, I think the damage loss from -30 base damage would be less than 5% of final damage.

Using CK boots will only give an additional one point of damage vs. 75% fire res, so they certainly are not a counter to the damage loss from the mdr bug.
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Sep 8 2010 10:02am
Quote (sXTitan @ Aug 30 2010 10:01am)
http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff438/kyur4thc0ld/30my1k8.jpg


Quote (ClanBK @ Aug 30 2010 10:01am)
:( give on east ladder, thats insane


looks like you got your wish lol :D
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Sep 8 2010 10:52am
Quote (breakbeatz2 @ Sep 8 2010 03:42pm)
I think you're using bad gear choice here.  With an eth/rep bhammer and a 48max circlet, I think the damage loss from -30 base damage would be less than 5% of final damage.

Using CK boots will only give an additional one point of damage vs. 75% fire res, so they certainly are not a counter to the damage loss from the mdr bug.


83 mana/12 all res are INVALUABLE mods for a charger.
I would never use a 2/80 ammy, personally.

The fire damage bothers me as well, but its still amazing all around, and there is nothing that ive seen on lad so far that would be worth using over this.
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Sep 8 2010 10:57am
should probably make a new topic for this, but how many of you are actually thinking about duels vs just numbers...
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Sep 8 2010 11:37am
Quote (NewZealandD2 @ Sep 8 2010 01:00am)
My New Mld Zealot Helm ( Getting 2 x 30ed/15ias jewels for it as soon as someone comes along with theses )
Lmk what you guys think of it


http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb90/kaelallen12/EthRepVis2socketGc.jpg


Quote (NewZealandD2 @ Sep 8 2010 01:11am)
http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb90/kaelallen12/EthrepfoolsSc.jpg

30ed/15ias Jeweled already :/


low def and damage on both of these
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Sep 8 2010 01:19pm
Quote (NewZealandD2 @ Sep 8 2010 02:20am)
yeah i wanted to use some ed/ar/9/9's but i acually need ias if i wana use this with my eth rep sc


Id still use a E-Oath small crescent over that axe.
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