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Jan 31 2018 06:24am
Quote (Belarathon @ Jan 31 2018 05:57am)
Perf for level 18 is 65% I think, putting it pretty far off. CTC Frost Nova would be the best other mod he is missing ^_^



Yes, 65% is perfect. Perfect def would be 112 iirc and add in 40 from the jewels for a max of 152. I have a 110 defense eth rep with 4 life and 2 sockets crown as well but it doesn’t have fhr or visionary, so the loss of defense is worth the other mods.

The fhr is useful since I have 10% fhr on my armor as well. Honestly it’s really only missing 10 life and either CTC frost nova or the of the sun mod.

I’m using one bitter hold and it is perm.

Right now I’m sitting at 3.6k defense, 1101 life, 1.7k ar, and like 800 max damage with zeal. I might fool around with sigs boots for more ar and defense and I’m waiting on one more jewel to finish his other scepter.
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Jan 31 2018 07:06am
Yeah sounds about right. Idd better with the fhr/vis then.

N1 Bitterhold ofc! i rly want one :P Idk much about Palas, but how beneficial is that 14dex to you? Nice stats so far, im sure KO is ez pz ^^ Hmm Idk if sigs boots would be worth, Imo Ck's. Unless ur up against some mean Conc barb with 4-5k defense ^^

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Quote (TShaman @ Jan 31 2018 07:06am)
Yeah sounds about right. Idd better with the fhr/vis then.

N1 Bitterhold ofc! i rly want one :P Idk much about Palas, but how beneficial is that 14dex to you? Nice stats so far, im sure KO is ez pz ^^ Hmm Idk if sigs boots would be worth, Imo Ck's. Unless ur up against some mean Conc barb with 4-5k defense ^^



With Angelics, I only need one hard point in dex. I could use 2 but I’d lose a chunk of ar and unless I get a really good ammy, a chunk of life too.

There are a couple of really good conc barbs on east. It’s either 60 life and some fire damage or up to 74 defense and 50 ar.
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Jan 31 2018 10:25am
Quote (ATOMICMAN @ Jan 31 2018 08:12am)
With Angelics, I only need one hard point in dex. I could use 2 but I’d lose a chunk of ar and unless I get a really good ammy, a chunk of life too.

There are a couple of really good conc barbs on east. It’s either 60 life and some fire damage or up to 74 defense and 50 ar.


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Jan 31 2018 10:33am
problem is +60 dam helm still outclasses the helm.

Iw done a lot of math on lvl 18 melee, only eth repair item worth a dam in lld is ancients, other get outclassed.

none or less its a nice helm 9/10 from me

This post was edited by grimaud on Jan 31 2018 10:35am
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Jan 31 2018 11:02am
Quote (grimaud @ Jan 31 2018 11:33am)
problem is +60 dam helm still outclasses the helm.

Iw done a lot of math on lvl 18 melee, only eth repair item worth a dam in lld is ancients, other get outclassed.

none or less its a nice helm 9/10 from me


vouch needs mana
or charge will drain ur mana
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Jan 31 2018 11:04am
Quote (grimaud @ Jan 31 2018 10:33am)
problem is +60 dam helm still outclasses the helm.

Iw done a lot of math on lvl 18 melee, only eth repair item worth a dam in lld is ancients, other get outclassed.

none or less its a nice helm 9/10 from me


I’ve spent a lot of time working on different builds for defiant zealots over the years and done a lot of math. It depends on what you plan on dueling and how much you want to specialize in it. With that in mind, it ultimately depends on how you build your character. For what I wanted, this is about equal to a 60 max crown and a 3x15 max 20 def crown. It’s something different and I was trying for as high defense as I could get (and also saving me a jewel over a 3 socket crown, the max/defense jewels are hard to come by). If money was no object and I had unlimited source of jewels and crowns, I would use an ebugged eth crown with 3x 15 max 20 defense jewels.

Thanks for the 9/10.
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Quote (ATOMICMAN @ Jan 31 2018 12:04pm)
I’ve spent a lot of time working on different builds for defiant zealots over the years and done a lot of math. It depends on what you plan on dueling and how much you want to specialize in it. With that in mind, it ultimately depends on how you build your character. For what I wanted, this is about equal to a 60 max crown and a 3x15 max 20 def crown. It’s something different and I was trying for as high defense as I could get (and also saving me a jewel over a 3 socket crown, the max/defense jewels are hard to come by). If money was no object and I had unlimited source of jewels and crowns, I would use an ebugged eth crown with 3x 15 max 20 defense jewels.

Thanks for the 9/10.


before all the sites got hit they were like 25 cents per
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Jan 31 2018 11:40am
Quote (Riox @ Jan 31 2018 11:02am)
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lol yes a defiant charger
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Jan 31 2018 12:11pm
Quote (ATOMICMAN @ Jan 31 2018 06:40pm)
lol yes a defiant charger


i think he meant for a charger/zealer to beat a 60max crown/mask u need 2soc/mana circlet but ye

Quote (Riox @ Jan 31 2018 06:07pm)
before all the sites got hit they were like 25 cents per


ebugged crown 25c? u high bro

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