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Dec 10 2021 04:25pm
I can't wait for this tourney and the 2-3 contestants that it'll have.
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Quote (HuntingTreasure @ Dec 10 2021 07:39pm)
i want to host tournaments at some point in the future.


Just to be a balancing point here - There is absolutely nothing preventing you from hosting a tournament, and I would encourage anyone that wants to contribute the the community in this way. Alot of people that have carried over from D2 are set in their ways in what lld should look like, but I am more relaxed. This is not the same game, not the same mechanic's and we dont have to do it the same way every time. In terms of the rules you are suggesting you should clarify what these duels look like, i.e. are you allowing telestaffs? If you are not allowing telestaffs I see what you are trying to do re: no energy shield, but if you allow tele staffs, there are several builds that can toe to toe vs a sorc.

If resist is not capped and repl life is not capped then elemental damage dealers such as a fb and blizz can not win duels where both players are equal, at the very least the duels (a ft5) from skilled players, well equipped players (say 35~60 repl life each) could last over an hour.
In terms of slow, once you allow any % of slow you turn a balanced matchup (where the paladin is already favoured) into a 1 sided demolition vs an Amazon (and certain other builds too). I dont understand the need for opening this door when the ones that benefit from it are already quite strong, even while accepting that desync no longer works.

In terms of the recent cooley tournaments (and the ones currently hosted by me) mana pots are/were allowed, but this is acknowledging that alot of ppl are not geared yet. there are staples at each dueling bracket and at 30 there are a host of ways to get decent mana cheap (such as spirit, frost burns, stones of jordan and even insight). There was once an arguement that shapers, or rabies druids required no skill. I countered that at the time by saying that it takes skill to build a proper rabies character (and a degree of skill to play one, nevermind a shaper). Therefore mana resource management is a skill, like maintaining stamina in a frw duel bowa vs barb. However, be that as it may, allowing mana potions as a stop gap for players that do not have proper mana amounts is understandable and I would envisage that tournaments allowing potions would enable players on a tight budget to compete.

This post was edited by ferdia on Dec 10 2021 04:31pm
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Quote (animejunkie @ Dec 10 2021 04:25pm)
I can't wait for this tourney and the 2-3 contestants that it'll have.


3 people i respect for actually trying something new

quality over quantity
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Dec 10 2021 04:33pm
and yes there is an argument for quality over quantity. better to have a small tournament of like minded people that all agree on the rules then a large tournament with conflicting views.
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Quote (HuntingTreasure @ 10 Dec 2021 23:31)
3 people i respect for actually trying something new

quality over quantity


Yeah, but you are aiming for shit quality and shit quantity
I mean what you are writing is flat out wrong
" functions as a bone shield and wind armor"
?Xd
No it doesnt
Functionls completely differently from both of those

No maxed liferep lol
I dont even play lld atm, but its clear that you lack real duelling experience in general
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Dec 10 2021 04:46pm
Based on this rule set, I’m going to have to assume you have never lld’d before?
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Dec 10 2021 04:48pm
relax people i requested this to be taken down.

sorry to infringe
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Dec 10 2021 04:56pm
Quote (ferdia @ Dec 10 2021 05:30pm)
Just to be a balancing point here - There is absolutely nothing preventing you from hosting a tournament, and I would encourage anyone that wants to contribute the the community in this way. Alot of people that have carried over from D2 are set in their ways in what lld should look like, but I am more relaxed. This is not the same game, not the same mechanic's and we dont have to do it the same way every time. In terms of the rules you are suggesting you should clarify what these duels look like, i.e. are you allowing telestaffs? If you are not allowing telestaffs I see what you are trying to do re: no energy shield, but if you allow tele staffs, there are several builds that can toe to toe vs a sorc.

If resist is not capped and repl life is not capped then elemental damage dealers such as a fb and blizz can not win duels where both players are equal, at the very least the duels (a ft5) from skilled players, well equipped players (say 35~60 repl life each) could last over an hour.
In terms of slow, once you allow any % of slow you turn a balanced matchup (where the paladin is already favoured) into a 1 sided demolition vs an Amazon (and certain other builds too). I dont understand the need for opening this door when the ones that benefit from it are already quite strong, even while accepting that desync no longer works.

In terms of the recent cooley tournaments (and the ones currently hosted by me) mana pots are/were allowed, but this is acknowledging that alot of ppl are not geared yet. there are staples at each dueling bracket and at 30 there are a host of ways to get decent mana cheap (such as spirit, frost burns, stones of jordan and even insight). There was once an arguement that shapers, or rabies druids required no skill. I countered that at the time by saying that it takes skill to build a proper rabies character (and a degree of skill to play one, nevermind a shaper). Therefore mana resource management is a skill, like maintaining stamina in a frw duel bowa vs barb. However, be that as it may, allowing mana potions as a stop gap for players that do not have proper mana amounts is understandable and I would envisage that tournaments allowing potions would enable players on a tight budget to compete.


you lost me at stone of jordan being cheap. lmao.

i was following your every word and agreeing with everything until i saw you lump soj in with the "cheap" items you listed as cheap, cause that shits like 900 fg each or some shit
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Dec 10 2021 04:58pm
oops well 10fcr 90 mana then! i only bought my x2 sojs last week, super expensive.
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Quote (ferdia @ Dec 10 2021 05:58pm)
oops well 10fcr 90 mana then! i only bought my x2 sojs last week, super expensive.


ya last week that had to have been 1k+ each lmao, def not cheapo.

i finished my 163fcr/99fhr druid out pretty much, dont think other than maybe a low anni to try nd push for 7k life when i hit level 94 or 95, i will be getting anymore gear for him, just gonna keep him simple.

now that i have a hld pvper built, ill start focusing on lld primarily, cause ive got the hld char for if high lvls come in and try to ruin a game ppl werent smart enough to put lvl restricts on.
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