Whirlwind should still have a small advan over kicker unless total noobie

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How so?

E/ oh I see now haha. Didn’t even see the part about his ww getting slammed by kicker. I’m more of a post skimmer than full reader haha stopped reading around “hdin vs hdin” and started again at last paragraph. But yeah. After some practice he will prob find that ww still wins more often

This post was edited by Belarathon on Nov 25 2021 08:42am

WW > Kicker

You get to ww once and then you're stun locked. I thought ww would escape wof/mb stun but it doesn't. Doesn't work the same as in d2og. We tested some without mb. It was still 50/50

I think the kicker you dueled didn't use mb, at least I'm hoping you have a barb to make the above comments?

This post was edited by chum on Nov 25 2021 09:03am

Your ping might be making it seem worse than it is. I only lose maybe once every 5-6 duels to his kicker, and we duel pretty often.

Who's kicker?

Yeah 500 ping never helps on NA ofc. I'm still missing alot gear/invent it even if I had them I'd still only have 1 ww and then can't move. Be interesting to try on euro

Edit: btw I love that kick is now unblockable, this needed to happen sooner! Trust them to break mb though

This post was edited by chum on Nov 25 2021 09:06am

Werewolf's kicker and hybrid kicker. Duel them both pretty often, which ever he feels like playing.

Sounds like the ping for sure then. Kicker would manhandle vs 500 ping lol

i vouch everything trix123 says. ive dueled more barbs on my kicker than any other matchups: in 10 duels, ill win maybe 1 or 2. more if the barb isnt geared well or if the player makes mistakes.

the permalock after a ww only happens if you do short ww's and stop in the middle of a bunch of traps. these are the only wins i can squeeze. you can change how you ww to limit these.
like you mentioned, ping will also be a huge factor, because 500ping = 0.5second delay before you can cast another ww; loads of opportunity to get stunlocked.

kicker matchups with/without mind blast:



this assumes both player on equal footing. i played vs mrhandsome's cold sorc without mind blast: in like 7 duels i didnt win a single one. hes a way better player than me ♥

This post was edited by WereWolf12345 on Nov 25 2021 09:28am