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Mar 24 2021 11:21am
Quote (chum @ Mar 24 2021 06:18pm)
that was just my assumption, making a test one now, give me an hour :P


I still say do a gheed gamble tour. The results would be a shit show
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Mar 24 2021 11:40am
Quote (chum @ Mar 24 2021 01:18pm)
that was just my assumption, making a test one now, give me an hour :P


try it with hwanins, thats the best bet for 4 fpa with these restrictions at 30, imo. steeldriver or bonesnap are options too, but you're best at 5 fpa with the steeldriver and 6 with the snap.
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Mar 24 2021 12:11pm
razorswitch fwer incoming
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Razorswitch staff (1skills/30fcr/50@/15mdr/175mana/80life)

I've always wanted this to be a 1 hander, would be so damn good.

Also charger op with bletter, my first "Libby" used an eth one on swap like 2 decades ago zons didn't know what was up.
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Quote (meegz1 @ Mar 24 2021 05:15pm)
750 ww damage, with a bletter, and no inventory? maybe on a crit. if you high roll.


750 ww dmg would have been about right if I used 12x str or so. I was forgetting the highest str item on this build is whitsens shield 5x str lmao.

Just shot some stuff together dmg is 500 max, 55frw +36skill frw....... the funny thing is I have 1500 life lol! That is alot without any charms. Definitely playable even with about a 1/3 of dmg of a true lvl 30 ww barb.


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Wouldnt a firewall sorc still be able to get enough damage and manaregen to be boarderline unkillable?

I presume plain white items are ok too (so for example a +3 jav white maiden to maybe allow a plaguezon)?

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Wouldnt a firewall sorc still be able to get enough damage and manaregen to be boarderline unkillable?


Probably but an esfb sorc is unstoppable in current rules atm, so always 1/2 builds that have advantage. Thoughts though frank? Fun or waste of time?
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Quote (chum @ Mar 24 2021 07:55pm)
Probably but an esfb sorc is unstoppable in current rules atm, so always 1/2 builds that have advantage. Thoughts though frank? Fun or waste of time?


Anything different could be fun. Anything fun isnt a waste of time.

It depends how much fun people want to have and whether people just go for the easy builds. I mean the game is 20 years old - we are all familiar enough with the game to plan a character in 5 minutes. How viable it is depends on how many people use this as an opportunity to have fun with less optimal builds. Like you said though its likely just to be 1 or 2 builds that are even more op in comparison to others than fully geared op chars. To make it somewhat balanced you have to start a new Bible. Maybe a new testament.

I mean, in reality you will have a lot of low damage low life chars without the rares/charms/runewords. That in itself isnt so bad but the low mana could be a pain in the ass. When trying out some fun lvl12 and lvl24 builds the most offputting thing was when you had a char that could be fun on paper but ended up just being a severe mana conservation exercise. Imagine a barb with bo and good life and max block. It could probably just stand still until a bowa loses all its mana.

Sorry my thoughts are a bit all over the place. tldr - worth a shot. Its a cheap and quick thing to try and if it doesnt work in the end then it doesnt work.
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Quote (LaochraGael @ Mar 24 2021 08:04pm)
Anything different could be fun. Anything fun isnt a waste of time.

It depends how much fun people want to have and whether people just go for the easy builds. I mean the game is 20 years old - we are all familiar enough with the game to plan a character in 5 minutes. How viable it is depends on how many people use this as an opportunity to have fun with less optimal builds. Like you said though its likely just to be 1 or 2 builds that are even more op in comparison to others than fully geared op chars. To make it somewhat balanced you have to start a new Bible. Maybe a new testament.

I mean, in reality you will have a lot of low damage low life chars without the rares/charms/runewords. That in itself isnt so bad but the low mana could be a pain in the ass. When trying out some fun lvl12 and lvl24 builds the most offputting thing was when you had a char that could be fun on paper but ended up just being a severe mana conservation exercise. Imagine a barb with bo and good life and max block. It could probably just stand still until a bowa loses all its mana.

Sorry my thoughts are a bit all over the place. tldr - worth a shot. Its a cheap and quick thing to try and if it doesnt work in the end then it doesnt work.


Completed agree with the mana, think my test barb had 13x mana, yeah had dtm from angelics but still soooo low.
Will have to think about something to overcome this, as some already suggested, probably just mana pots (only fun anyway).
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Mar 24 2021 05:14pm
Quote (chum @ Mar 24 2021 03:19pm)
750 ww dmg would have been about right if I used 12x str or so. I was forgetting the highest str item on this build is whitsens shield 5x str lmao.

Just shot some stuff together dmg is 500 max, 55frw +36skill frw....... the funny thing is I have 1500 life lol! That is alot without any charms. Definitely playable even with about a 1/3 of dmg of a true lvl 30 ww barb.
^ferdia


I was forgetting even the whits, assuming ~45 str lol, but not that much of a difference. The real problem with bletter is the range, especially if you dont have any time on a barb with no range. It is mega rough.

Part of my suggestion for the hwanins also means you end up looking like a really beefy medieval peasant conscript with the leather hat & basic bitch armor...which is exactly why I have a spear, leather helmet, and gambeson around the house :rofl:
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