and also having to stretch out that strategy to do what i was talking about is what makes this a skillful matchup that not a lot of people can comprehend. and in reality it makes it a harder duel then pure no tele vc vs pure no tele vc in hld tbh because you die faster in hld and thusly have to do far less work to get a duel to end. it's still the same strategy to win, you just have to rinse/repeat it a lot more so its harder to pull off.

I still have mines I can try and fix him up again , I did a storm shield build but I'll pm you for sure

30 fcr v/t is the best build for hld vtpk. V/c's are rare and inferior.

Lol not to make this about hld but what would be better for a tourney prize, fg or gear?

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 6 2020 07:44pm

Jseto #1 lld v/t East

V/c’s are good for the smite ladders that happen

75fcr v/t is the best overall for hld
125 can get you some dope chains vs like nec and sorcs but you lose a lot just to get to 125

actually stormshield is the most commonly used shield in hld vtpk.

fire up that bad boy!

This post was edited by anomy on Aug 6 2020 07:48pm

actually smoothg proved that quite wrong. he played the next fcr bp up on his vt and dominated everyone. but generally speaking yes 30 fcr vt is the best. and indeed far better than vc.

i already stated vt vs vt with teleport is a more skillful duel than lld vtpk, i was just comparing it to hld vc vs vc because its similar but a tad harder. ive modded the hld vt ladder several times with anomy, which is why i know what mike is saying and can feel where he's coming from since he is a far better vt with teleport involved thats actually the strongest parts of his playstyle and he doesnt have that in lld when he uses danzeva's lld guest vt to play with us.

i was just giving mike a reason to keep at lld vtpk by explaining its similarity to vc vs vc, and if he keeps up with a matchup where he has to do what you have to do in hld vc vs vc but for over twice as many smites in order to win consistetly, it will improve the charge/smite aspect of his vtpk playstyle in hld aswell.

This is one I got for my bday from cota last ladder, I believe it was set at 300. (nft just a heads up) I know its not as great but I love the look and it was a gift. (ty again cota)

The other two I feel I will sell them but I feel it could shift the power balance between some vt players. But that isn't my concern, only 1 other og vt who I feel it the biggest threat to me. Don't get me wrong there are plenty of great lld vt pilots now.

Absolutely, 30 fcr is only good in vtpk. 75 is way better for any other duel, and 125 is a lot of fun.