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#21
Aug 5 2020 06:27am
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 5 2020 07:18am)
zeal with 1 pt charge is still ridiculous. i am just here thinking about all the possible builds that could do well and i cant think of 1 build that zeal will have trouble with even with just 1 pt charge.

matt did really well on bro for the b tier tourney and im pretty sure bro is 1 pt charge.

i mean there is psn zon (zeal with 1 pt charge will demolish it)
nec with spear (not even fair zeal wins that easily)
trapper with no scythe or mb or any other sin build (ridiculously outmatched by zeal)
fury druid (stands a small chance but zeal is the superior melee)
druid might stand the best chance since it almost never uses tele vs zeal neways but if the zealer is smart they will prob still win
ive nvr seen warcry vs zeal but even if warcry pwns it with a shield on, warcry is gonna lose to way more shit than zealer
smite vs zeal in hld smite wins but in lld zeal wins for sure


i mean its all for fun neways but im just saying for example if a good player signs up with a nicely geared zeal no one stands much of a chance. smite atleast has clear weaknesses available to be played like psn zon fury druid and druid


what if zeal couldn't use fanat aura?
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#22
Aug 5 2020 06:29am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 5 2020 08:27am)
what if zeal couldn't use fanat aura?


its still basically a fury druid with the ability to charge up fast to their opponent if they try to run. even lvl 1 charge can be brutal to chars who try nd run

how about zeal cant use charge at all, so that its basically another fury druid but with higher defense
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#23
Aug 5 2020 06:31am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 5 2020 07:27am)
what if zeal couldn't use fanat aura?



This would hurt considering the ias bp

But what stops them from stating conc or dumping might

Ehh
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#24
Aug 5 2020 06:33am
I think banning fanat for zeal/smite paladins is the most reasonable answer here

going from 4 fpa to 6 fpa is a huge dmg blow to paladins for zeal
and helps limit v/t's being OP in this format as well, considering how well cota did on v/t last tour

Quote (cota @ Aug 5 2020 07:31am)
This would hurt considering the ias bp

But what stops them from stating conc or dumping might

Ehh


can't fix everything unless we legit just banned paladins

This post was edited by IAmAsylum on Aug 5 2020 06:34am
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Aug 5 2020 06:34am
Quote (cota @ Aug 5 2020 08:31am)
This would hurt considering the ias bp

But what stops them from stating conc or dumping might

Ehh


i mean other than maybe a rly well geared specifically for melee fury druid, losing the ias but gaining mass dmg might honestly be better for this tourney.
a zeal with conc is gonna do more dmg than zeal w/ fanat.

short of banning charge on zeal idont see how u weaken it in this format.
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Aug 5 2020 06:34am
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 5 2020 07:34am)
i mean other than maybe a rly well geared specifically for melee fury druid, losing the ias but gaining mass dmg might honestly be better for this tourney.
a zeal with conc is gonna do more dmg than zeal w/ fanat.

short of banning charge on zeal idont see how u weaken it in this format.


only passive charge allowed?
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#27
Aug 5 2020 06:38am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 5 2020 08:34am)
only passive charge allowed?


what do u mean? i mean i get the 4 to 6 fps and all that but i dont see that making shit for difference based on whats available to play other than maybe they will do worse vs pure melee fury.
nothing else that is playable will gain much advantage vs slower yet stronger zeal. charge basically makes it a fury who can close the distance better.

by passive charge do u mean it has to be on the weapon? u cant hard skill it?
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#28
Aug 5 2020 06:46am
who has a zealer still besides matt?

passive charge as in for movement only
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#29
Aug 5 2020 06:54am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 5 2020 07:46am)
who has a zealer still besides matt?

passive charge as in for movement only



Markhor

Tbh removing Fanta is fine

There are ways to beat a zealer

None the less just don’t allow boost to dmg auras unless elemental

The slow attack is going to get them ruined

Just post a pole and let the majority favor win

It’s a tourney for fun and majority aren’t going to donate to the pool anyways
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#30
Aug 5 2020 06:54am
Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 5 2020 08:46am)
who has a zealer still besides matt?

passive charge as in for movement only


you are gonna have 1 hell of a time enforcing that vs shit like zons. if you wanna go down that pothole filled road go for it. half the ppl who sign up for this wont know the difference between using it for movement and namelocking to close the distance, and in their defense there isnt much of a difference to it lol.

its all w/e tho ill have fun either way as long as 7 fuckin ppl cant bye me like last time. banning charge on zeal is a clear fix for how strong it is, if you want it to maintain that much power its up to you your the one who organized this, and i cant fault you as i know damn well i am too lazy to have done all this lmao.
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