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25 Rep cap on east
15 w/ prayer

Trying to limit rep ultimately limits what you can do w/ gear. Skull is the best socket for any caster because of the mana regen and rep, and almost everyone looks to get rep from items cause it’s the most useful mod. In a perfect world no one would complain about a game where only 10 ppl play, but w/e.
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Nov 22 2019 01:27pm
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25 Rep cap on east
15 w/ prayer

Trying to limit rep ultimately limits what you can do w/ gear. Skull is the best socket for any caster because of the mana regen and rep, and almost everyone looks to get rep from items cause it’s the most useful mod. In a perfect world no one would complain about a game where only 10 ppl play, but w/e.


while skulls are indeed needed for many builds both skulls and rubies increase effective HP per duel. skulls are more about regen of mana than effective life, and imo are mostly needed on tele chars w/ no insight.

15 life rep cap was never even tried because of Pcrown, having 12 limits u to 3 replife total from your pcrown socket, rings, belt, and ammy. but no one wears p crowns these days really.

w/ a 10 rep ammy, 2x 5 rep rings, and 5 rep build u can hit 25 rep w/o skulls. shouldn't be needed unless you're a tele druid imo, or a necro who insists on using a tele staff. maybe barbs, tbh i dont play barb and dont know how often they oom. zons too, but just dont spam LF and you're typically good. i only oom on my zon vs wall heavy necros.
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Nov 22 2019 01:29pm
Quote (gemmd @ Nov 22 2019 08:15pm)
The real issue is abusing regen and rep imo. A few ppl make it an issue fur everyone


You cant abuse it if you dont have it to begin with
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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 22 2019 11:27am)
while skulls are indeed needed for many builds both skulls and rubies increase effective HP per duel. skulls are more about regen of mana than effective life, and imo are mostly needed on tele chars w/ no insight.

15 life rep cap was never even tried because of Pcrown, having 12 limits u to 3 replife total from your pcrown socket, rings, belt, and ammy. but no one wears p crowns these days really.

w/ a 10 rep ammy, 2x 5 rep rings, and 5 rep build u can hit 25 rep w/o skulls. shouldn't be needed unless you're a tele druid imo, or a necro who insists on using a tele staff. maybe barbs, tbh i dont play barb and dont know how often they oom. zons too, but just dont spam LF and you're typically good. i only oom on my zon vs wall heavy necros.



Skulls are for mana regen not rep, the rep just make them better and make them the best in slot jewel for lld.

Realistically most chars have trouble even reaching 20+ rep.
Most casters put 2x skull in circ, 1x in magi. Then finding usable amus/circs w/ rep is Hard enough and tend to make them trophies.

Let’s be real, how many ppl are actually playing w/ more than 20 rep? I’ve gotten 1 char to 70+ , and a couple to 20-25ish.

The rep isn’t the issue, it’s the try hards who go offscreen and l8z all duel... but again, only 10 ppl play so I don’t see why this discussion gets brought up all the time lol.
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Nov 22 2019 01:42pm
Quote (lld_mayhem @ Nov 22 2019 11:29am)
You cant abuse it if you dont have it to begin with



So ban rep on all chars? Interesting.
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Nov 22 2019 01:44pm
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Skulls are for mana regen not rep, the rep just make them better and make them the best in slot jewel for lld.

Realistically most chars have trouble even reaching 20+ rep.
Most casters put 2x skull in circ, 1x in magi. Then finding usable amus/circs w/ rep is Hard enough and tend to make them trophies.

Let’s be real, how many ppl are actually playing w/ more than 20 rep? I’ve gotten 1 char to 70+ , and a couple to 20-25ish.

The rep isn’t the issue, it’s the try hards who go offscreen and l8z all duel... but again, only 10 ppl play so I don’t see why this discussion gets brought up all the time lol.


it keeps coming up for 2 reasons, es sorcs and prayer dins. somewhere along the line people built 20-30 rep prayer dins and 30 rep es sorcs. both are too high, and can make tvts super boring if they're the last on a team.

as tvt is the flavor these days i think it revolves around the "last man alive" situation. which indeed goes back to l8zing and tryhards. just die so we can all get back to dueling lol.
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it keeps coming up for 2 reasons, es sorcs and prayer dins. somewhere along the line people built 20-30 rep prayer dins and 30 rep es sorcs. both are too high, and can make tvts super boring if they're the last on a team.

as tvt is the flavor these days i think it revolves around the "last man alive" situation. which indeed goes back to l8zing and tryhards. just die so we can all get back to dueling lol.



dins, zons, sorcs aren’t part of fpk for a reason.
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dins, zons, sorcs aren’t part of fpk for a reason.


we tried to float the LLD fpk idea and it died every time. :(
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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 22 2019 11:48am)
we tried to float the LLD fpk idea and it died every time. :(



Because ppl wanted to allow “off” builds like chargers and plague zons... I think only scipi and excellence agreed w/ me when I said only barb/nec/sin/Druid for the most balance. Only mike agreed w/ me when I said eop allowed lol.
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Quote (Avenged321 @ Nov 22 2019 01:52pm)
Because ppl wanted to allow “off” builds like chargers and plague zons... I think only scipi and excellence agreed w/ me when I said only barb/nec/sin/Druid for the most balance. Only mike agreed w/ me when I said eop allowed lol.


LLD has followed this pattern for a long time. 10-15 people play total, rule change gets proposed, 5 people like it, 5 people ok with it, 5 people hate it. so if u do it u lose 33% of players and cant fill a tvt. so we go wild west no rules to fill tvts. but LLD has been in a good spot for a while now, healthy tvts for a 18 year old game.
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