Hmm I'll have to go back and reexamine these calculation you're talking about. In game it doesnt reflect as much of an issue though. It's a bit hard to balance Foh in the regard that we'd like more smite action then foh but foh should still be a vital tool for vtpk.

No because a vmagi or a 4os gothic plate with 4 sols is still better than the trash he spent fg on



I'm still waiting for an explanation for why someone wouldn't just pop on a frw circ and always use foh. We can plainly see how you built your paladin.
Your plan is to smite vs smite and you have no actual way to kill someone who stands outside smite range and spams foh until you die.



smite vs smite confirmed.
also you shouldn't be using the word "we" when the only person to sign up for your ladder is the slave you've been using to test setups for that ladder

This post was edited by Worrywart on Sep 6 2019 04:32pm

I'd tone it down mister lol. Regardless were you socket the sols the max is 5x. Unless you want to build 10x sol toon which then you can take your ideas some were else.

You seem a bit frustrated over the fact I wont allow people to abuse foh? Oh and some one, who ever they are...are more then welcome to use frw circ and foh around.

I wouldnt confuse help with slavery and alot of these are his ideas. Trying to be civil here with ya but you dont seem to level with me.

I don't need you to be civil. You have nothing of value to contribute and I don't hold your opinion in any regard so you have no standing to lose.

You still think foh vs foh is a skill-intensive matchup. HLD vtpk only uses smite at all because they have teleport to make it a viable skill.
Your ladder has to be for people who want to smite vs smite because otherwise nobody would ever both smiting an opponent. It would just be charge/foh vs charge/foh

Sorry but I cant help but to look down on this. To me it just sounds like you want to be able to abuse foh, this isnt hld and we dont need eop in a lld vtpk format. The parameters are balanced(still working on that foh dmg cal btw sinpa). You have never, vs me or any of the current vt and so it must be hard for you to fathom the idea.

Foh vs foh is , kinda dumb if you ask me. Never thought it was intensive. Smite/charge/foh...it's always been like that for lld vt.

This post was edited by danzeva on Sep 6 2019 05:31pm

It's not about what I want. I have no interest in wasting my time dueling you again and even less interest in wasting my money to build a vt with subpar gear just to conform to your ignorant rules list.
I've dueled you and I've dueled jack. I've dueled trix123 and I dueled vs thesnipa, sackshadow, jon, clanbk, pacifism, jim and everyone else who made a vt back in the day.

I'm saying that anyone who wanted to be #1 on your ladder would never, ever use smite in a 1v1 mirror match. It's not optimal play because your opponent would never let you land a hit.

I beg to differ, you just refuse to make the effort to acknowledge lld Vt. Honestly all you've done is complain...and waisted probably more energy replying then I would dueling lol. And for the record I dont remember ever dueling you.

You dont have to spend any fg, I can supply the toon. If not then PM me regarding what ever other opinions you have. This thread is for people who want to play in this ladder. You're obviously not one of them...so please lessen the spam

This post was edited by danzeva on Sep 6 2019 05:50pm

To be honest idk if anyone can win with just using foh all duel with a foh max dmg of 500...they will get eventually smited or charged with cb procing

idk what skill setup you're going at to get the 515, and i dont care to go look in the other thread, but my rep foh'er, which is hard pointed FoH plus max holy shock, wears 3/3 honor, sojs, shroud, pcrown, +1 pala ammy, spirit, comes out at 633 FoH. I'd gain +2 pcomb by swapping helm and ammy, probably put foh at 725ish. with my holy shield honor scepter (no +foh) he's right at 499 dmg.