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Mar 23 2018 07:27pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 23 2018 03:56pm)
unless they hit you with iron maiden and you 1 shot yourself


1 shot yourself from hitting them? So a double ko?

That cant be a thing
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Mar 23 2018 11:50pm
Quote (Worrywart @ 23 Mar 2018 08:57)
on softcore its a stupid joke build but it can still get kills.
https://youtu.be/cKtuULPwFac
https://youtu.be/3oSojIUsTAo
https://youtu.be/RsIHyIMAVw0
https://youtu.be/DZSe3qHdPpA
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https://youtu.be/5uz8smVRUR0

on hardcore its one of the strongest builds, especially since iron golem is broken as fuck at low levels
the first time I made a lld on hardcore I died because I forgot that iron golems could be made out of anything. A level 35ish necro had a 6 death faceted warpike as his golem and it 1hit me when I killed the golem.


Amazons and bone necros who do not know which curses to use, as I suspected ^_^ Oh, and a uhh.. fissure druid!

It is a joke build indeed. I had one on ladder season 1 and it did pretty well just because most people weren't using tele staffs at the time and everyone was just more nooby and shitty back then.
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Quote (Pants1 @ Mar 23 2018 07:27pm)
1 shot yourself from hitting them? So a double ko?

That cant be a thing


1 shot yourself from hitting the minions. The minions have no pvp penalty when attacked, so they reflect 5.88x more damage

even a grief ww barb deals something like what, 3.3k damage per hit average? skeletons have 5k life so they can reflect the full amount
level ~10 IM would reflect about 500 HP in physical damage if he's got 15% dr.
but if you're a real dick, edge bow + amp is even better, a 3.3k phys hit would reflect 1600 HP

could if he's not a retard he can just leap+zerk

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 24 2018 02:37pm
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But if you upcharge and they telestomp you, you hit the necro directly through his minions.

Youd never charge a skele

But if they Tele stomp with eop and they block it theyd probably kill u id imagine

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But if you upcharge and they telestomp you, you hit the necro directly through his minions.

Youd never charge a skele

But if they Tele stomp with eop and they block it theyd probably kill u id imagine


I know this is a bit different, but Jawn used to kill my charger almost 50-50 using a Summons druid with Shockwave/Summon Grizzly/Edge bow/Spirit of Barbs. He was super quick with his swaps and re-shifting at 1 life to stay alive, it was really hard to get that final hit because I had to land two in a row, if I Zealed I was dead, my Smite was really slow as a Charger and half the time it would knock him out of range and he could get away to re-shift, but Smite was still pretty much the only way to actually get that kill-hit. Plus I almost always had the Stun swirl over my head so I was getting FHRd any time I came near him haha... Not to mention I killed myself in a few Charges or Zeals if I messed up, and most people who dueled Jawn know that he is really good at forcing people to mess up. They were actually really fun duels and probably the Charger should have a pretty big advantage but he was just a lot better than me in general so he brought it close to 50-50. The only thing that saved me in most duels is that I could leech off of the Bear. If I couldn't leech, it would have been like 90-10 for the Druid. And I don't think you can leech off of necro skeletons?

It might be harder than you think to duel Charge vs Summon nec, they have like 10 skeletons or whatever and you're going to kill yourself in a couple Charges if you mess up and hit one. In theory you could avoid the skeletons and hit the necro, but the nec is going to stay alive more than a couple hits, especially if he is re-casting Bone Armor and has max block, like if you get unlucky enough you might even just die from the Skeletons damage without even hitting them haha. I think Worrywart has one so you should try dueling with him sometime, they are fun duels, but I don't think you have a Charger? But yeah, I guess in GM duels with equal skill the Charger still has the advantage, but I think you would still die more often than you'd expect. Hard to say though!

This post was edited by Belarathon on Mar 24 2018 08:31pm
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I know this is a bit different, but Jawn used to kill my charger almost 50-50 using a Summons druid with Shockwave/Summon Grizzly/Edge bow/Spirit of Barbs. He was super quick with his swaps and re-shifting at 1 life to stay alive, it was really hard to get that final hit because I had to land two in a row, if I Zealed I was dead, my Smite was really slow as a Charger and half the time it would knock him out of range and he could get away to re-shift, but Smite was still pretty much the only way to actually get that kill-hit. Plus I almost always had the Stun swirl over my head so I was getting FHRd any time I came near him haha... Not to mention I killed myself in a few Charges or Zeals if I messed up, and most people who dueled Jawn know that he is really good at forcing people to mess up. They were actually really fun duels and probably the Charger should have a pretty big advantage but he was just a lot better than me in general so he brought it close to 50-50. The only thing that saved me in most duels is that I could leech off of the Bear. If I couldn't leech, it would have been like 90-10 for the Druid. And I don't think you can leech off of necro skeletons?

It might be harder than you think to duel Charge vs Summon nec, they have like 10 skeletons or whatever and you're going to kill yourself in a couple Charges if you mess up and hit one. In theory you could avoid the skeletons and hit the necro, but the nec is going to stay alive more than a couple hits, especially if he is re-casting Bone Armor and has max block, like if you get unlucky enough you might even just die from the Skeletons damage without even hitting them haha. I think Worrywart has one so you should try dueling with him sometime, they are fun duels, but I don't think you have a Charger? But yeah, I guess in GM duels with equal skill the Charger still has the advantage, but I think you would still die more often than you'd expect. Hard to say though!


Reshifting is bm lol. I thought.

With eop id be scared, but vs a tele staff I would imagine its not too hard.

And one Tele stomp onto an upcharge would likely end a necro. Usually you hit them 2 or 3 times in my experience. AlsoImportant to remain upcharging after you notice they have stomped you. You won't see what's going on your screen ... but on their screen they can get hit likr 5 times in a row. Ive killed barbs off a single telestomp if they fail to switch or have no fhr.

You can chain that many charges even without namelocking.

I'm aure you knew most of this but I wanted to summarize.
Would be glad to vs worrywart with a Libby of course, and just use straight insight charge. I would love to have 24 3 max 15 life scs in stash for charge duels

This post was edited by Pants1 on Mar 24 2018 10:10pm
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@bel can't recast bone armor on summon nec. It would only be 1 point so it's only blocking like 100 damage anyway. Not worth the point
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Mar 26 2018 02:19pm
stupid joke build
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