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Mar 9 2016 04:49pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Mar 9 2016 05:30pm)
It would work without a hard point if you had a +prayer scepter but if he has a prayer scepter it must be garbage. ilvl would be too low to spawn anything good.


think its a 3conc/3ham/1prayer honor
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Mar 9 2016 04:53pm
Quote (Riox @ Mar 9 2016 03:49pm)
think its a 3conc/3ham/1prayer honor



Sounds awful , he'd still need to skill prayer to get medi lol
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Sounds awful , he'd still need to skill prayer to get medi lol


i didnt know it gave rep if the aura wasnt equip
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Mar 9 2016 04:57pm
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Sounds awful , he'd still need to skill prayer to get medi lol


yeah I don't see the point to that retarded hammer lol.
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Quote (Riox @ Mar 9 2016 05:55pm)
i didnt know it gave rep if the aura wasnt equip


It would but getting medi and prayer on the same scepter is not possible. He would have to be running a prayer+cleansing scepter

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think its a 3conc/3ham/1prayer honor


I didn't think you could get 5os on scepters with like ilvl 14

This post was edited by Worrywart on Mar 9 2016 06:06pm
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Mar 10 2016 12:26am
i also agree on the above said, there is no reason why sorc can only have 5repl..

im not here to whine or argue but i can give my opinions on the matter where i have abit of experience.

like twinsen said, i think bowas on lvl 30 is fairly balanced and not the overpower in most mu's.

i feel like im such a huge underdog vs tele chars, fire sorcs mostly,
but i can see there is a possibility for a bowa to win that match up, and that gives me blood on my teeth to continue to improve my play, but it just feels sooo far away..
its like if u slip up just once or u get chain tk's/fb locked there no real chance to come back. :P since im not the most experienced lvl30 dueler idk if its just me who feels this way ^^

maybe u could allow either amp or kb as said above or u could nerf sorc in that match up someway.. maybe ban telekenis, dont know if its too drastic tho..

i can understand kb/amp is not allowed vs barbs for example, when amp procs its pretty much an auto win if u are a good ama player, and that doesnt feel as exciting or skill based..
but i cant understand why barbs who are already huge tanks can have 25repl when zons cant have more than 10,
its not like your off screen with bowa at anytime in the matchup and like ferdia said we are all grown ups and we know not to defwhore :)
maybe we could allow zons to either have 15-20repl in that mu or reduce barbs, i dont know it was just an thought.. xd


hmm about wsg allowed vs sins, it seems interesting but maybe it will totaly kill the viability of sin if u know how to abuse it well.


i have no clues on paladin since i have never played one in lld so i will leave that up to u guys!

im just rambling here, but thats some of my thoughts on the subject anyways :rolleyes:
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Mar 10 2016 12:36am
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i also agree on the above said, there is no reason why sorc can only have 5repl..

im not here to whine or argue but i can give my opinions on the matter where i have abit of experience.

like twinsen said, i think bowas on lvl 30 is fairly balanced and not the overpower in most mu's.

i feel like im such a huge underdog vs tele chars, fire sorcs mostly,
but i can see there is a possibility for a bowa to win that match up, and that gives me blood on my teeth to continue to improve my play, but it just feels sooo far away..
its like if u slip up just once or u get chain tk's/fb locked there no real chance to come back. :P since im not the most experienced lvl30 dueler idk if its just me who feels this way ^^

maybe u could allow either amp or kb as said above or u could nerf sorc in that match up someway.. maybe ban telekenis, dont know if its too drastic tho..

i can understand kb/amp is not allowed vs barbs for example, when amp procs its pretty much an auto win if u are a good ama player, and that doesnt feel as exciting or skill based..
but i cant understand why barbs who are already huge tanks can have 25repl when zons cant have more than 10,
its not like your off screen with bowa at anytime in the matchup and like ferdia said we are all grown ups and we know not to defwhore :)
maybe we could allow zons to either have 15-20repl in that mu or reduce barbs, i dont know it was just an thought.. xd


hmm about wsg allowed vs sins, it seems interesting but maybe it will totaly kill the viability of sin if u know how to abuse it well.


i have no clues on paladin since i have never played one in lld so i will leave that up to u guys!

im just rambling here, but thats some of my thoughts on the subject anyways :rolleyes:


You can't wsg against a class that's already kinda op? That's insane. I really feel for you euros. Same with the 5 rep life on sorc.. that's just ridiculous.

This post was edited by TheWeirdOne on Mar 10 2016 12:36am
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Mar 10 2016 02:10am
Serious question, does nobody on eu play trapper?

Quote (TShaman @ Mar 10 2016 01:26am)
hmm about wsg allowed vs sins, it seems interesting but maybe it will totaly kill the viability of sin if u know how to abuse it well.


If your trap players are dying to chars that don't wsg and aren't allowed to use tele stick, they're afk. The only thing that kills the viability of sin in a competitive setting is that bowas are going to make up a huge part of any 30 tourney

This post was edited by Worrywart on Mar 10 2016 02:12am
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Mar 10 2016 02:53am
We have no dominant trapper on EU and as you said, bowa's kill them readily enough. The only matchup where WSG would really be needed is shaper vs trapper, everything while favoured for the trapper (apart from vs bowa) is not an auto-win. on that basis and seeing that there is no real drive to get wsg, i certainly wont be advocating wsg. Also matroskin would turn in his grave.

So what we have so far is:
1. Allow 10 repl on Sorc's
2. Allow teleport staffs on Barbs and Necro's
3. Allow CTC Amp or KB on ama's
4. Allow Medi Skilled - no efamers allowed on chars however

Still Debating:
1. finer details of CTC Amp / KB (i.e. not allowed vs barb & shaper ??)
2. WSG (firmly convinced it can stay banned).

This post was edited by ferdia on Mar 10 2016 03:02am
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Quote (ferdia @ 10 Mar 2016 10:53)
Also matroskin would turn in his grave.


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