Lol 75 fcr hdin. Tell me you have tested all this plz Alex. Would love to duel you using that.

By charge/medi scepter I mean eth self repair scepter with medi

spirit 35fc
viper 30fc
helm 20fc
amu 20fc
belt 10fc
ring 10fc

get a scepter with 10fc and replace ring or amu



use scepter for medi + hammer
use oath or whatever for charge

This post was edited by harabec on Sep 1 2013 09:58am

That makes sense viper vs Bowie. The main reason a Libby needs medi is for dueling Bowie's and sorcs. Duels that take a while
I'm not too sure what you areguement is for/against, give me a reason why you want it banned, in other words which char do you struggle with vs Libby?

Edit. Are you serious about 75 fcr vs bow? Bowie already for advantage here.

This post was edited by chum on Sep 1 2013 10:02am

vs bow you should be using charge and hammer only to prevent ama to tank you with lf
75fc is enough for that

How wrong you are. I use hammer to synch behide place hammer and charge away. Usually Bowie will see a Libby coming and go backover.
If you only use hammer to stop Ama tanking, first you have to switch and take more dmg, this duel strategy will not work.

a libby that only uses hammer will be no challange for any bowa
you don't need to switch to cast hammmers.. 35spirit+20amu+20helm are all that's needed.

i can only disagree with all you said here
you are a gd player really, but this time i somehow think you have no clue sry that i have to say that
i dont get why you are so scared of medi with 1 hard point into prayer, my level 29 hdin gains exactly 5,5 life per sec with medi/prayer skilled ( and he has a higher medi level due to +1 paladin ammy and circ ), so he's regaining 110 life in 20 secs
i also have about 1,6k mana, that means i am going to use medi only in a duel which is longer then 3-5mins ( sorcs, necs, trappers w/e ), once i am out of mana, medi is only used for a very short time, which is definetly less then 20 secs
to put that into numbers in a duel which is less then 5 mins i do only regen life with the 5 lrp from a skull in my viper, thats about 0.5 life each sec = 30 life in a minute ( 150 life in 5 mins ) + 20 secs running medi ~ 110 life, in total 260 life
( i just checked it, i dont need more then 20s to refill the whole mana )

and now lets check a char with the maximum of the gm amount of 30 lrp ( 30 lrp * 0.98 = life regen/min ), thats about 3 life each sec, 180 life per minute * 5 ~ 900 life in 5 mins

i hope there is no mistake in the calculation xD

anyway i just wanted to show that medi shouldnt be a thing to be scared about, once its used in a gm way - we are talking of a hdin here and not a regencharger ^^

related to east ; they allow 1pt into prayer there, just no regen chars like regencharger, regenfoh ( max prayer skilled )

tearhunches and medi scepter are a bad idea for any libby, spirit basicly is a must since you will need the fcr and mana 75fcr and a manapool of 500 is useless
scepters may grant alot dmg, but in the end 75 fcr is to slow, since you want to cast the hammers fast and avoid to get hit by any chance, a slow hdin with no vigor and 75fcr will die so easy lol
thats one of the reason i dont like the libbies as they are build in east

i think people do actually have more problems with reading the synch then with medi and vigor
sometimes i can use the same tactic like 20 times in a row to kill them, and they still dont get it

and that's where the problem is.. maybe YOU use medi for less than 20sec.
did you ever duel tw3ety? he sits somewhere off map for 5min, then does 1 attack and repeats.

same on sorc. i dueled him necro vs fb in the lvl 30 tour and 1 round took 30min because he was somewhere offmap, replenishing life.

i cant controll people's playstyle, but if someone plays like that, the rules must punish them.
repl is the instrument to force certain chars (sorc and pala most of all) to play offensively.

regarding your calculations: 5.5 life per second is equal to 56 repl from items, so if you use 5repl from eq, your opponent needs 62repl to punish def play.

i never lost a duel vs a paladin using hammer only with amazon. not sure what more clue i need to tell you that you can't win with that tactic.

i only did that vs u because i think ur full ruleset is complete shit. i dont know why Ferdi use it in his tours