I was mainly being a smart ass. It's a very nice jewel. Just saying that angel_elite would say it's not a trophy cause there are better out there.

He would say this is only 16 max.

(4+12)/2=8...

9 max
58 ar
9 dex
-15 req

Euro SCNL

low def

you are being an asshole now

i never said such a thing, and for your info there are maybe 1-2 jewels better than this one that have ever spawned, one of which i know was in Zelja's posesion (4-14/-15 req i think)

my only comparision to the other jewel was that there were 20-30 better ed/max jewels, therefore i didnt consider it a trophy for being top 20-30 jewel.

this is top 1-5 damage/-req spawns ever. therefore i would always consider it a trophy.

there are 3-4 of the same jewel-type on europe now, pavlika has 8-8, 4-12 i think, and i have one x 3-13 self crafted. all with -15 reqs obviously.


great jewel indeed, 10/10




what i would call a "16 max"/-15 req yup

i still dont understand what big problem you guys have with the fact that i call all the different "Average damage of 8" jewels "16 maxers"

considering 0-16, 1-15,2-14,3-13,4-12, 5-11 etc all have the same average damage for a max-damage build, its really not that far-fetched to understand why it's easier to call them all by one name, even if the first 2 can't technically spawn.

This post was edited by Angel_Elite on Aug 23 2009 04:13pm

I was just joking around I don't have a problem with it.

It causes a lot of flames though.

because most ppl like baboun/energy/yippee/iron seem to just be searching for stuff to flame.

it's common sense to want to nickname 8-10 items that do the same stats (basically anyway) by one name.

but energy is now putting bullshit words into my mouth which i never said. i dont consider a jewel which is top 30 a trophy in VLLD. but i never would say this is not trophy. simple as that, as its at least top 5.

cya

This post was edited by Angel_Elite on Aug 23 2009 04:28pm

12min dmg is not = to 12max dmg angel