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Jul 12 2010 06:06am
Quote (baboun @ 12 Jul 2010 13:05)
bowa > all

but not all bowas are like ferdia so less tears and more skills please :)



damn brah, you maybe won't believe me but i made a dream where Gaia told me that the next your will start when you'll stop using 95 block you h4ckeerr


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brah yes brah

This post was edited by baboun on Jul 12 2010 06:08am
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Jul 12 2010 06:22am
stuff that i will be putting in for next tournament ( no tears from bowa's please, think if it as a challange )

1. 110 frw max on bowa vs all builds.
2. 80 fire res max on bowa

both of these changes are needed to give multiple builds a chance. obviously i will have to play bowa in the tour to test all the above. im looking at a few other things (cold res on assassins, res in svs duels - harabec is pming me about alot of that) and once im happy i'll post a 10th tour topic. i dont expect to put in many other changes.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 12 2010 06:27am
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Jul 12 2010 07:01am
Quote (ferdia @ Jul 12 2010 12:22pm)
stuff that i will be putting in for next tournament ( no tears from bowa's please, think if it as a challange )

1. 110 frw max on bowa vs all builds.
2. 80 fire res max on bowa

both of these changes are needed to give multiple builds a chance. obviously i will have to play bowa in the tour to test all the above. im looking at a few other things (cold res on assassins, res in svs duels - harabec is pming me about alot of that) and once im happy i'll post a 10th tour topic. i dont expect to put in many other changes.


110 frw is nice!
5max fire what item ? xd don't know any1 without rune. --> bad idea cos 3 fb = dead. ( unbalanced )

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Jul 12 2010 07:30am
Quote (snatch @ 12 Jul 2010 14:01)
110 frw is nice!
5max fire what item ? xd don't know any1 without rune. --> bad idea cos 3 fb = dead. ( unbalanced )


it's actually not 3hits..
max AVG fb dmg is ~9300 (with 3fire amu & helm, 10 sks - most use 2fire amu & circ though)
ferdia's ama has 1500life, so with 80%res (which u get from waterwalk) u end up with 5 hits needed to kill (9300*.17*.2=~315, 1500/315 = ~5)
while ama dodges with ~50% and also keep in mind that ama can use 30repl, that means almost 3life/sec
-> 10 hits needed to kill, depending on the lenght of the duel possibly more

anyway most amas don't have ferdia's stats.. and i didn't have problems vs amas with 85res in this tour
i think 110%frw also helps fbs since ama can't rly dodge fbs as well as with 150+
i don't know really, i would say keep 85%res and tour duel vs ferdia will show if its too much or not
perhaps also restrict replenish life on ama to 10 or so (vs all chars)

more important than fire res on ama:
ban wsg
lower coldres vs orb (esp on assa since camp in 5traps + clawblock > orb)

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Jul 12 2010 07:38am
Quote (harabec @ Jul 12 2010 01:30pm)
it's actually not 3hits..
max AVG fb dmg is ~9300 (with 3fire amu & helm, 10 sks - most use 2fire amu & circ though)
ferdia's ama has 1500life, so with 80%res (which u get from waterwalk) u end up with 5 hits needed to kill (9300*.17*.2=~315, 1500/315 = ~5)
while ama dodges with ~50% and also keep in mind that ama can use 30repl, that means almost 3life/sec
-> 10 hits needed to kill, depending on the lenght of the duel possibly more


wtf ferdi :P, the zon u shared to me had 800life xD
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Jul 12 2010 07:51am
Quote (n-c @ Jul 12 2010 01:38pm)
wtf ferdi :P, the zon u shared to me had 800life xD


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Jul 12 2010 07:53am
Quote (n-c @ Jul 12 2010 03:38pm)
wtf ferdi :P, the zon u shared to me had 800life xD


thats normal for glasscannon zons 800-1k max

u wont reach more

but yeah stay at 85 fres lal

+ 110-120 frw is ok

i dont got more anyways,

and lrep 10 is cap is seriously crap idea

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Jul 12 2010 09:50am
the share zon was a dex build, albeit with low life :P
i think harabec is happy enough with my explanation re: 30 rep life. <<>> needed to prevent opponents def whoring.
if no one else wants the 80 fire res rule to be put in, im happy to take it out after the next tournament. im simply trying to give other builds an opportunity in the next tournament to shine. it not written in stone that anything new i put in will stay. harabec is looking at a team tournament as well, so expect something in the coming days. its 80 fire res next [10th] tournament though!

im not keen on banning wsg as its too hard to referee. i already said i was going to look at cold res (again).

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 12 2010 10:01am
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Jul 12 2010 10:05am
how much fire res can a dudu mancer have huhu. Right now i have 80 fire res or 1 piece of sorb
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