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Dec 28 2018 02:15am
Quote (meegz1 @ Dec 28 2018 01:11am)
yeah, cuz i definitely never had a tele stick on my necro since ladder season 3, the one where me and a buddy built the fucker and named him after his hld nec. it just didnt make sense to me to drop from 125 spirit sword when i could keep the same fcr bp with insight. and then i swapped him to 75 fcr wand/stealth, and what do you know, theres a 20 fcr tele stick now, so im not dropping fcr bps. and puddles, zack, yippee, myself, and others definitely werent messing with telesticks on everything in d2pk to see what we could get worked out. i guess mikey using his telestick before the nec went to james or frank wasn't real either.

you have a seriously high opinion of yourself, and its rarely about situations where its true or where it matters.



There’s a difference between having tele stick stashed and actually using it... plz inform me how you use the tele stick.

Feel free to tell me of all the necs who tele stomped and got kills.

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Dec 28 2018 02:36am
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There’s a difference between having tele stick stashed and actually using it... plz inform me how you use the tele stick.

Feel free to tell me of all the necs who tele stomped and got kills.


you're absolutely right, and my dislike of using telesticks has been around since that necro was made and the telestick was put on him. i was never able to get the timing to my own liking to make it feel smooth enough to use. i never liked using it, but it was there if anyone did. my distaste for telesticks in general grew as it became more widespread, and i still only think they have a use on ele druids with a situational option for barbs against overly defensive sorcs. and for me, i dont give enough fucks to take my time with overly defensive anything.

none of this has changed in quite a while. in fact, it was when sxtitan was getting more people to use them on east (not you, it never was you in the first place) that my wider opinions on them got cemented.

as for all the necs who telestomped and got kills? i watched mikey do it before anyone, and even then it got him killed quite a lot.
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Dec 28 2018 02:46am
Tele is almost pointless on a non sorc for offense(other than druid)

Since theres that delay to weapon swap thats almost frame perfect or youll hear the weapon swap sound but it doesnt swap

Then opp has time to move
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Dec 28 2018 04:33am
Avenged123 invented lld but since he is black he sold that idea to mad sultan for a few crack doses
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Dec 28 2018 06:00am

Gds yesterday!
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Great effort from sota here!
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Quote (rudipk @ 28 Dec 2018 05:00)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mRXK8szqLg
Gds yesterday!


Just for the record, these duels were like 20-1 in favour of the stinkyinmate team ;P But I guess you can't post the losses cause without you there's nobody to record XD I was just sad in town waiting for a 6th to join.
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Quote (Haseo @ Dec 28 2018 03:46am)
Tele is almost pointless on a non sorc for offense(other than druid)

Since theres that delay to weapon swap thats almost frame perfect or youll hear the weapon swap sound but it doesnt swap

Then opp has time to move


Lol

Matt blows this entire theory out of the water tho so
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Dec 28 2018 08:26am
when sxtitan moved over to east, along with IBzack and company on priv realms, tele sticks were loaded onto and tested for every build.

if you joined east well after that you wouldn't know, and we all know aj likes to talk about how sx was only a ladder scrub lol

at one point i remember zack (iirc) running a tele staff on a fucking rabies druid lol

the reason you don't see a lot of offensive telestomps on necs is it isn't really a godly strategy. matchup dependent for sure, but overall it's more of a surprise tactic than anything, ww has range to counter the wep swap, bone attacks dont. you can get good hits off with spears, spirits should all miss, and teeth is an auto hit but low dmg. ive seen it mostly to last hit. honestly think the best move might be tele stomp followed by a bonewall to get more consistent spear followups, by the time you stomp they're a few tiles away and can just weave out of spears. still works sometimes.

honestly tele staffs only worked on so many builds in the 2009-2010 era because of low FRW totals on chars, shitty amounts of str bugged frw, and lack of frw on circs. it all comes down to frw to make the wep swap viable. now adays chars are simply built better, and the frw speeds get you outside of stomp range for many builds. ww works because of range, nado works because pets cause blocks/dodge during the wep swap frames, etc

my tele zerk barb couldn't hit anyone with a low range wep, he was better off taking a few shots with the staff to avoid swap frames then gauging what they do post stomp.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 28 2018 09:26am)
when sxtitan moved over to east, along with IBzack and company on priv realms, tele sticks were loaded onto and tested for every build.

if you joined east well after that you wouldn't know, and we all know aj likes to talk about how sx was only a ladder scrub lol

at one point i remember zack (iirc) running a tele staff on a fucking rabies druid lol

the reason you don't see a lot of offensive telestomps on necs is it isn't really a godly strategy. matchup dependent for sure, but overall it's more of a surprise tactic than anything, ww has range to counter the wep swap, bone attacks dont. you can get good hits off with spears, spirits should all miss, and teeth is an auto hit but low dmg. ive seen it mostly to last hit. honestly think the best move might be tele stomp followed by a bonewall to get more consistent spear followups, by the time you stomp they're a few tiles away and can just weave out of spears. still works sometimes.

honestly tele staffs only worked on so many builds in the 2009-2010 era because of low FRW totals on chars, shitty amounts of str bugged frw, and lack of frw on circs. it all comes down to frw to make the wep swap viable. now adays chars are simply built better, and the frw speeds get you outside of stomp range for many builds. ww works because of range, nado works because pets cause blocks/dodge during the wep swap frames, etc

my tele zerk barb couldn't hit anyone with a low range wep, he was better off taking a few shots with the staff to avoid swap frames then gauging what they do post stomp.


who was it who had the cs zon with a tele stick? was it cadagan?

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