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Dec 27 2018 04:26pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2018 04:25pm)
yeah nvn is a very linear boring duel, but there were guys then that were slippery as all hell so it was fun.

i would guess for any nec coming over from HLD the timing of 125 would feel more natural.

did u rock an insight on swap or tele staff? and did u have to use it often?

necs have the nice ability of being able to regen mana behind a bonewall or whilst the opponent is carrying a big spirit train. and this seems to be a ladder char build request, so insight will be used a LOT in any case.


it had both and i used insight more than tele staff
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2018 05:18pm)
Yeah stealth is the sneaky item people don't think about

vmagi = 30 fcr, stealth = 25fcr, 25 fhr, 25 frw

so u can use 1 item to get 3 "breakpoints" at the cost of 1 skill and some MDR

even though FRW doesnt have bps u still need to get to a set amount for each char to be viable. additionally since u can make stealth in ANY base u need to based on your str total to str bug it = 25 str bugged frw

so no matter what boots u use u can find a base to match.

stealth + nats boots were commonly used on Euro and west for years, but never caught on in East for some reason.

you might also find u use spirit a LOT, most good necs do. although the best ones snipe with spears a lot too.


I hardly ever use spirit honestly, so, I'll probably use spirit until I find a nice wand.

I want to str bug my boots too, so I'll have to figure that out...I suck at str bugging. xD
I should use stealth on my din too <_<
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Dec 27 2018 04:29pm
Quote (Haseo @ Dec 27 2018 04:26pm)
it had both and i used insight more than tele staff


slam is the only nec i've ever faced that had the mana pool to run tele staff in certain matchups that i'd never seen it run in.

until scamvenged poofed the bmanas on him ofc. what is the lazy bullshit nickname for that kid again? is it Gay-J? Yu-Gay-Yo? AjFK?

Quote (D2Jacks @ Dec 27 2018 04:28pm)
I hardly ever use spirit honestly, so, I'll probably use spirit until I find a nice wand.

I want to str bug my boots too, so I'll have to figure that out...I suck at str bugging. xD
I should use stealth on my din too <_<



u mean "spirit" as in the runeword, or "spirit" as in bone spirit. i meant bone spirit would be what you'll use a lot. but year, the runeword works until u get a wand.

as to stealth on a din, skip it, charge > frw str bugging. u have auto synch with charge+vigor, so added str bugged frw isn't a bonus. and since they have dual spirits they can fit FCR bps with ease, leaving bfists as an option most of the time to hit FHR bp.

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I hardly ever use spirit honestly, so, I'll probably use spirit until I find a nice wand.

I want to str bug my boots too, so I'll have to figure that out...I suck at str bugging. xD
I should use stealth on my din too <_<


He is talking about spirit the skill.
What so hard? have enough str to wear boots with a charm take charm off boots turn red = glitched.
No.
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I hardly ever use spirit honestly, so, I'll probably use spirit until I find a nice wand.

I want to str bug my boots too, so I'll have to figure that out...I suck at str bugging. xD
I should use stealth on my din too <_<


stealth build requires 30 str boots
vmagi build needs 47-48 str boots(sharkskins/demonhide?) boots
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Quote (Haseo @ Dec 27 2018 05:30pm)
stealth build requires 30 str boots
vmagi build needs 47-48 str boots(sharkskins/demonhide?) boots


Chain boots.

Sharkskin, but more likely light plated at 50 ( they are just more commonly found)
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Chain boots.

Sharkskin, but more likely light plated at 50 ( they are just more commonly found)


yes chains and sharkskins(i used lps tho cuz easier as u said)

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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2018 05:29pm)
slam is the only nec i've ever faced that had the mana pool to run tele staff in certain matchups that i'd never seen it run in.

until scamvenged poofed the bmanas on him ofc. what is the lazy bullshit nickname for that kid again? is it Gay-J? Yu-Gay-Yo? AjFK?




u mean "spirit" as in the runeword, or "spirit" as in bone spirit. i meant bone spirit would be what you'll use a lot. but year, the runeword works until u get a wand.

as to stealth on a din, skip it, charge > frw str bugging. u have auto synch with charge+vigor, so added str bugged frw isn't a bonus. and since they have dual spirits they can fit FCR bps with ease, leaving bfists as an option most of the time to hit FHR bp.


I don't use spirit the skill often, and I'll be using a spirit sword

Quote (mike_roch @ Dec 27 2018 05:30pm)
He is talking about spirit the skill.
What so hard? have enough str to wear boots with a charm take charm off boots turn red = glitched.
No.


That's cool if you want your body to pop
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Quote (D2Jacks @ Dec 27 2018 04:32pm)
I don't use spirit the skill often, and I'll be using a spirit sword



That's cool if you want your body to pop


Does not cause a body pop. that's been patched since like 1.09

str bugging using a single charm can't cause a body pop, as you will have the str to pick up all items if dead.

u should use spirit the skill, a lot. look at rudipk's youtube channel, he plays nec a shit load.

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Quote (D2Jacks @ Dec 27 2018 05:32pm)
I don't use spirit the skill often, and I'll be using a spirit sword



That's cool if you want your body to pop


That isn't how it works, your body will never pop if you can equip the item with said charm.

You check to see if the boots turn red but then put the charm back on.

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