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Aug 18 2010 09:10am
Quote (ferdia @ Aug 18 2010 03:53pm)
I would not um that sword in a million years.

-requirements +ed + ar + str/dex please.

and agreed, all the good swords are banned.


um is completely overlooked @@@@ i remember tiber um'ing his sword, i'd still say it's a v.valid socket. jewels are too much stat fetishism imo
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Quote (Dwerfs @ 18 Aug 2010 16:10)
um is completely overlooked @@@@ i remember tiber um'ing his sword, i'd still say it's a v.valid socket. jewels are too much stat fetishism imo


Not for mld barb. See my edit.
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Aug 18 2010 09:21am
Quote (mopp @ Aug 18 2010 04:15pm)
Not for mld barb. See my edit.


you forgot to count in dr^^
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Quote (mopp @ Aug 18 2010 02:59pm)
Um: 192/4= 48 dmg over 8 seconds, can only be applied every 8 seconds
Jewel ed/str/dex= 114 avg dmg every hit +171 life (calced with 500 offweapon ed including str)


This can't be right. Maybe you mean 114 average displayed damage, but it certainly can't be pvp damage.

Anyway I still agree that jewel > Um.
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Aug 18 2010 09:24am
ow is 24x dmg over 8 seconds @ lvl49 pvp if i remember correctly
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Quote (breakbeatz2 @ 18 Aug 2010 16:21)
This can't be right.  Maybe you mean 114 average displayed damage, but it certainly can't be pvp damage.

Anyway I still agree that jewel > Um.


ah eah forget pvp malus its 19 avg then
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Quote (kataklysmus @ Aug 18 2010 04:24pm)
ow is 24x dmg over 8 seconds @ lvl49 pvp if i remember correctly


all i know is that i am totally in love with ow at my v/t and find it totally overlooked


sure, after all dmg sockets doesn't matter on my flail, but i still think OW is completely overlooked - maybe it's only superior in a fools sword after all, but idk. i think the sword is pretty shitty even if it beats oath it's not worth the fg

i'd always use UM if i got no other source of OW

This post was edited by Dwerfs on Aug 18 2010 09:30am
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Aug 18 2010 09:31am
jewel > um all the way in my opinion
i would go for something expensive like ar/ed/str/-req if possible ^^
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Aug 18 2010 09:37am
Ok, after all Um isnt as bad as i thought, its 2,5 -4,6 times more dmg (with 0-45% dr) than a jewel with 30 ed.

Exept for barbs/smiter there are not many chars that use more than 15% dr.
So i would still use that jewel and take the extra life since dmg over time doesnt really fit into non-bvb playstyle.
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Aug 18 2010 09:42am
Quote (mopp @ Aug 18 2010 04:37pm)
Ok, after all Um isnt as bad as i thought, its 2,5 -4,6 times more dmg (with 0-45% dr) than a jewel with 30 ed.

Exept for barbs/smiter there are not many chars that use more than 15% dr.
So i would still use that jewel and take the extra life since dmg over time doesnt really fit into non-bvb playstyle.


lol... OW is like the best mod ever in damage^^ even if you get a low hit and it ticks in it'll do full dmg

the "average jewel damage" is hardly constant, but sure - in some cases high dmg output works although OW kicking in vs casters or w/e that's hard to catch si fuckin #1
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