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Mar 23 2022 03:34pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 23 2022 05:32pm)
I think bowas can be fucked up by more team comps than barb/fire sorc/hdin though haha. I feel like ww/hdin/fb/fw are above bowa when it comes to overall dominance vs weaknesses especially in tvt. Not to say bowa isnt gfgaf, give her an S+ but not same level as fire sorc


zon is best tvt char there is imo

to be truthful nothing is same level as fire sorc, obviously.
but at the same time they are all 4 s tier or atleast thats the general consensus.
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Mar 23 2022 03:36pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ 23 Mar 2022 17:34)
zon is best tvt char there is imo

to be truthful nothing is same level as fire sorc, obviously.
but at the same time they are all 4 s tier or atleast thats the general consensus.


thing about bowa is they can be pretty fucked up pretty easily. if you have the right chars and they work together properly a bowa is negated so hard. fire sorc barb and hdin dont really have such a scenario because at the end of the day, fire sorc (obvious), barbs can kill things in 1 ww, and hdins only need 1 good sync
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Mar 23 2022 03:53pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 23 2022 05:36pm)
thing about bowa is they can be pretty fucked up pretty easily. if you have the right chars and they work together properly a bowa is negated so hard. fire sorc barb and hdin dont really have such a scenario because at the end of the day, fire sorc (obvious), barbs can kill things in 1 ww, and hdins only need 1 good sync


not if the bowa ur trying to negate has stuff to protect it. zons are the heart and soul of tvt who every single other character rallies around in their team comps.

imo that means zon is #1 tvt char. if ur team comp has no zon vs one that does its game fuckin over.


and before u continue with that line of t hought u should play hdin some, because MB + GA shits all over me in teams. consistently. its just as bad of a weakness as the things you mentioned are for zon but the zon gets protection from teammates and the din cant do shit about whats happening to him with mb+GA

at the end of the day the S tier chars have been pretty much set in stone for a decade, they are widely regarded as the 4 best chars, if you want to move the order around or put some above others its w/e but they r the 4 best characters regardless of the order.

This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Mar 23 2022 03:55pm
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Mar 23 2022 03:59pm
Quote (MADIrishGunner @ 23 Mar 2022 17:53)
not if the bowa ur trying to negate has stuff to protect it. zons are the heart and soul of tvt who every single other character rallies around in their team comps.

imo that means zon is #1 tvt char. if ur team comp has no zon vs one that does its game fuckin over.


and before u continue with that line of t hought u should play hdin some, because MB + GA shits all over me in teams. consistently. its just as bad of a weakness as the things you mentioned are for zon but the zon gets protection from teammates and the din cant do shit about whats happening to him with mb+GA

at the end of the day the S tier chars have been pretty much set in stone for a decade, they are widely regarded as the 4 best chars, if you want to move the order around or put some above others its w/e but they r the 4 best characters regardless of the order.


it's tough when one team has zon and the other doesnt, but its even more tough when one team has hdin and the other doesnt haha. if the hdin/zon are both good I mean.

yeah you're right there are sort of tiers but it'smore about who is playing what, who they are vs, and if they are in the zone that night or not lol. I've absolutely shit on people and then been shat on by them in very similar team comps, all just depends who is playing what and how they are doing that night XD
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Mar 23 2022 03:59pm
1v1 tiers are easier to classify than tvt tiers because some tvt chars REALLY are dependant on their team comp

except fire sorcs, they can get out of things and prob have an easier time doing 1v4's than any other char

getting 2v1'd as a bowa is fucking awful tho
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Mar 23 2022 04:01pm
Quote (IAmAsylum @ 23 Mar 2022 17:59)
1v1 tiers are easier to classify than tvt tiers because some tvt chars REALLY are dependant on their team comp

except fire sorcs, they can get out of things and prob have an easier time doing 1v4's than any other char

getting 2v1'd as a bowa is fucking awful tho


one thing every single person can agree on is that fire sorc >

(fb or fw, doesnt matter)
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Mar 23 2022 04:07pm
Pretty much agree with asylum. Every char is different when it comes down to tvt

A bow zon getting protected the whole time is annoying af tho

Fire sorc is in its own tier by itself.
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Mar 23 2022 04:08pm
that's why all my characters use hotspurs by default
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Mar 23 2022 04:32pm
Quote (left_testy2 @ 23 Mar 2022 18:07)
Pretty much agree with asylum. Every char is different when it comes down to tvt

A bow zon getting protected the whole time is annoying af tho

Fire sorc is in its own tier by itself.


yeah pretty much lol, it all comes down to team compositions but bowzons have many more team compositions that own her than hdin, ww, or fire sorc does. Still, kyushu is right the 4 best chars are the 4 best chars and always have been.

bow zon l8z protection is lame and fire sorc #1 agreed
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Mar 23 2022 04:55pm
Quote (Belarathon @ Mar 23 2022 06:32pm)
yeah pretty much lol, it all comes down to team compositions but bowzons have many more team compositions that own her than hdin, ww, or fire sorc does. Still, kyushu is right the 4 best chars are the 4 best chars and always have been.

bow zon l8z protection is lame and fire sorc #1 agreed


vouch

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Mar 23 2022 05:59pm)
1v1 tiers are easier to classify than tvt tiers because some tvt chars REALLY are dependant on their team comp

except fire sorcs, they can get out of things and prob have an easier time doing 1v4's than any other char

getting 2v1'd as a bowa is fucking awful tho


vouch

Quote (left_testy2 @ Mar 23 2022 06:07pm)
Pretty much agree with asylum. Every char is different when it comes down to tvt

A bow zon getting protected the whole time is annoying af tho

Fire sorc is in its own tier by itself.


get your own opinion ray! gosh smh

lmao jk

looks like everyone in agreement tho ahaha
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