Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 6 2020 07:40am)

is that your way of saying no to the no shield on druid can tele idea?

ban ted from signing up as dbl throw, ban psn jav on zon so that a psn zon has to use plague which doesnt last as long and favors their mobility less.

cs zon is far from op i see no reason to need changes esp with 3 vts in the event which will easily keep cs zon in check.

fury druid maybe no grim scythe so they dont have ridiculous range.

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 4 2020 04:22pm)

east/nl ok

Talk to me about rules here baby!

Doing blind signup's again, we will update rules as we go and as they are appropriate. I'll track everything in google docs like last time.



General Tournament Crap:
Blind entry, post on this thread that you are playing, then pm me in this format "JSP/D2 Account/Char Name/Char Type" I will post my char for all to see, but everyone else pm me to keep it blind.
Duels are FT5 on a points based system, 1 win = 1 point, with 2 bonus points given for a 5-0 (for 7 total points to the victor) - I'll probably track this in excel or something and update the thread as we go
If you need a ref, that means you're starting drama, so don't
Show your gear if requested etc. don't be a dick here
Duels are wherever you agree upon, clear the monsters first, or do it in hell chaos sanctuary full of monsters for all I care, just be cool about it and agree to whatever you're doing beforehand with your opponent
Every person gets 2 free "BYE's", you can only have a total of 2 bye's used against you as well. Any unused byes results in 1 additional point per at the end of the tourney

Regarding duels unfinished:
If you are unable to complete your duels and a legitimate effort was made to coordinate the duel (please save pm's if there is an issue) I will take the your average points per duel, and points given up per duel and award them to you/your remaining opponents as applicable. If you have completed less than half of your duels I will drop you from the tourney. If I suspect abuse of this rule (ie duel the shitty chars and dodge the strong chars) I will drop you from the tourney or award you -0- points for each incomplete duel and award your opponents your average points given up.

Duels start 8/10/2020 and will last for exactly 2 weeks

Prize for being the best of the worst:
400 fg pool donated by me
50% 1st place
40% 2nd place
10% 3rd place

if we get more players I'll pay out further down

Current Rules:

Character/Build rules

General:
30 life rep max
pots of any kind are bm
No hacks/dupes/hybrids (including perm 1.08's, and charms, legit PP are fine)
No % slow (or holy freeze you silly paladins)
Say "go", don't be a turd.
Let's not l8z mmkay?
No + max res adds (75% max res unless holy shock charger then you cant help it)
eth, no rep weapons are banned


Amazons:
Guided Arrow is banned
Slow Missiles banned - unless it procs from peace, then it's a duel restart

Assassins:
mind blast is banned in conjuction with trap bsed builds (with 1 hard point wof or light sentry mind blast IS ALLOWED)
trappers cannot use hand scythes

Barbarian
Whirlwind is banned
Druid:
No recasting CA
teleport is banned

Necromancer
No recasting BA
Prison only allowed vs teleporting characters
Max 3 bonewalls
bone spirit is banned

Paladin
1 pt charge max
1 pt physical damage auras max
1 pt prayer max
1 pt vigor max
No blessed hammer
Max 9 points smite
If 1 pt prayer then 10 rep life is limit
Physical damage auras may not be used with the skill “zeal”
if you use paladin, don't be a twat



Sorceress:
Fireball is banned
Firewall is banned
Blizzard is banned
lightning is banned
insight banned with ES
teleport is banned with skills ice blast and firebolt

signup via pm by saying jsp/account/char/char type
signup in thread by saying you're in

Quote (yeawhatup @ Aug 5 2020 10:42pm)

I'm a bit miffed from the last one where people dodged me in game without using a bye. Obviously not everyone shared the same experience tho, but it was not entertaining waiting in game for duels that were never going to happen.

I would like an update where tourny doesn't start until byes have been used. Maybe do a lottery after chars are posted then have contestants use their byes in whatever order picked. It's not like people won't know at that point who they will need to dodge. I think I'm a bit late for the suggestion thread tho

Anyway I'm in regardless if paladins are nuked off of lld. All for fun anyway

I'll pm u char soon

Quote (BULL @ Aug 6 2020 01:13pm)

capped lld fgoh dmg is like 78x dmg with stacked res its nothing man lol

Quote (Haseo @ Aug 6 2020 07:40am)

This thread just wont please everyone

What if we just do a sorc vs sorc tourney or ladder or whatever

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 6 2020 07:59am)

mirror builds only way to be fair to everyone tbh

Quote (Haseo @ Aug 6 2020 08:07am)

I was thinking of maybe making an svs ladder for all types but in fairness id go with something like

Blizz vs fb , blizz only needs 3 wins vs a fbs 5,
Blizz vs light(i think blizz has advantage correct if wrong) light needs only 3 wins vs blizz 5
Fb always needs 5 wins

Something like that idk

Quote (Haseo @ Aug 6 2020 09:07am)

I was thinking of maybe making an svs ladder for all types but in fairness id go with something like

Blizz vs fb , blizz only needs 3 wins vs a fbs 5,
Blizz vs light(i think blizz has advantage correct if wrong) light needs only 3 wins vs blizz 5
Fb always needs 5 wins

Something like that idk

Quote (IAmAsylum @ Aug 6 2020 08:07am)

light is the weakest 30 sorc build for sure so seems fair

Quote (Markhor @ Aug 6 2020 08:09am)

If I use hydra sorc, can it only need 1 win?

Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 6 2020 08:53am)

ted's not signing up as double throw i dont think. we've got a surprise in store.

anyhow i think rules discussions really come down to people willing to take losses and people who aren't. in a c-tier tourney there's bound to be HARD counters due to limited power and niche characters.

if someone says "oh i see this loophole in your rules, im gonna token my a tier char and cripple it just enough to fit the rules so i can win" like idk what to say. it goes against the spirit of the format. commit to c tiers and commit to losing but still having fun. tryhards diehard.

Quote (MADIrishGunner @ Aug 6 2020 08:32am)

not sure why you say that but i totally agree, hence me being willing to ban charge and cripple my favorite class in the game.

Regarding duels unfinished:
If you are unable to complete your duels and a legitimate effort was made to coordinate the duel (please save pm's if there is an issue) I will take the your average points per duel, and points given up per duel and award them to you/your remaining opponents as applicable. If you have completed less than half of your duels I will drop you from the tourney. If I suspect abuse of this rule (ie duel the shitty chars and dodge the strong chars) I will drop you from the tourney or award you -0- points for each incomplete duel and award your opponents your average points given up.

^i really like this rule. and still a max of 2 bye being able to be used on 1 person right? cause fuck being byed 7-8 times like last time lol.

still waiting to hear asys thoughts on ban psn jav so zon has to use plague and on my telestaff on druid if no shield idea.

i feel ban psn jav but still allow plague could really make things more fair since psn zon rly does seem to be the one ppl are saying will be the most op.

i totally understand whatever decision you make on these ideas but keep in mind you went against the popular vote to keep paladins having mobility, i feel taking it from druid but not paladin is unfair. but if you feel even without a shield teleport is too op on druid then it is what it is i guess.