Quote (mikeyjd @ Dec 1 2010 01:37am)

I think the issue is confused when people try to differentiate between usable llders and trophy chars. A dupe can never be a trophy. Most good llder's want their chars to be looked at as trophy's because of the amount of work that goes into collecting them. Allot of the enjoyment in lld comes from the amount of effort you can put into a char to make it work properly. If we allow dupes to be considered gm then we take away people's motivation to make their chars legitly and take away from the enjoyment that ensues from the effort we put into them. When we make a hld hdin with shako, hoto, nigma, torch, skillers we are making an extremely affective (if played properly) yet boring char with no unique features or originality. In my mind lld is an attempt to get away from the extremely common use of mods, dupes, and imports that cheapen the efforts of people who are trying to keep the game it was originally intended to be played. The way they've enjoyed it since it came out when they were 14. The way they grew up with it. If you want to use dupes fine, do it. Don't expect people who don't want to see them and what they represent to be accepting of the very thing they were trying to avoid when they came from hld pvp to lld pvp.

Quote (mikeyjd @ Dec 1 2010 01:37am)

I think the issue is confused when people try to differentiate between usable llders and trophy chars. A dupe can never be a trophy. Most good llder's want their chars to be looked at as trophy's because of the amount of work that goes into collecting them. Allot of the enjoyment in lld comes from the amount of effort you can put into a char to make it work properly. If we allow dupes to be considered gm then we take away people's motivation to make their chars legitly and take away from the enjoyment that ensues from the effort we put into them. When we make a hld hdin with shako, hoto, nigma, torch, skillers we are making an extremely affective (if played properly) yet boring char with no unique features or originality. In my mind lld is an attempt to get away from the extremely common use of mods, dupes, and imports that cheapen the efforts of people who are trying to keep the game it was originally intended to be played. The way they've enjoyed it since it came out when they were 14. The way they grew up with it. If you want to use dupes fine, do it. Don't expect people who don't want to see them and what they represent to be accepting of the very thing they were trying to avoid when they came from hld pvp to lld pvp.

Quote (GoodFun @ Dec 1 2010 05:36am)

maybe it's about keeping out folks who haven't hoarded items for 10 years or don't have 5k fg to sink into a lld char

just saying...

Quote (GoodFun @ Dec 1 2010 06:36am)

maybe it's about keeping out folks who haven't hoarded items for 10 years or don't have 5k fg to sink into a lld char

just saying...

Quote (makaveli7 @ Dec 1 2010 12:32am)

your statement is so dumb that i dont even know how to respond...

Quote (Hong10 @ Dec 1 2010 06:36am)

If you guys haven't figured out, lld started as a way to avoid the over duped/hacked(ith, hex) in hld
So yeah, go back to hld if you're not happy with it. In the words of your friend.

Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 1 2010 10:16am)

yeah, but the most of the people who have 'hoarded items for 10 years' suffer from:
1) they pass off tons of dupes as legits, knowingly or not
2) they can't step foot on ladder
3) some like break are eeebay nubs

which ofc is why LLD today is the exact opposite of the reason it was started- to avoid the faggotry

in HLD you might encounter a bunch of funny non-cookie cutter builds, usually at least one per game
in LLD, you'll meet a bunch of l8zing life replenish chars with 99% perfect gear in every game
which makes LLD very ironic

Quote (GoodFun @ Dec 1 2010 01:36pm)

maybe it's about keeping out folks who haven't hoarded items for 10 years or don't have 5k fg to sink into a lld char

just saying...

Quote (GoodFun @ Dec 1 2010 05:36am)

maybe it's about keeping out folks who haven't hoarded items for 10 years or don't have 5k fg to sink into a lld char

just saying...

Quote (Goomshill @ Dec 1 2010 08:16am)

yeah, but the most of the people who have 'hoarded items for 10 years' suffer from:
1) they pass off tons of dupes as legits, knowingly or not
2) they can't step foot on ladder
3) some like break are eeebay nubs

which ofc is why LLD today is the exact opposite of the reason it was started- to avoid the faggotry

in HLD you might encounter a bunch of funny non-cookie cutter builds, usually at least one per game
in LLD, you'll meet a bunch of l8zing life replenish chars with 99% perfect gear in every game

which makes LLD very ironic