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Quote (Twinsen @ Jan 31 2018 09:51pm)
Well :D I cant say i've ever played against a 30 charger or shocker in a ft5.
But on eu some ppl seems to be convinced dudu 5-0 everything cus of all the rule discussion about nerfing them.
While a few years back I heard ingame and on jsp from some fellow euros that 30 windies are barely viable.. which convinced me to make one in the first place to prove them wrong. :lol:


Rly Dan? Just Nerf Hej and its all good, no one else plays them :lol:
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Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 1 2018 07:48pm)
i will think on this fpk thing. but honestly ive liked the casual come-and-go meta of 9-30 tvt we've had lately.


I think it could be worth a go, will give u an exccuse to use that PDagger Sin of yours :P I like Rikid's idea alot aswell. But im just a Euro pleb trying to survive around here :cry:
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Quote (TShaman @ Feb 2 2018 07:05am)
Rly Dan? Just Nerf Hej and its all good, no one else plays them :lol:


Sneeze vs birdy ft5
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Quote (bonnerf2 @ Feb 2 2018 09:23am)
Sneeze vs birdy ft5


Oooh... U got me there ! but ill make sure to hold u up on that one :P
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Best rivalry of 2018???

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Sry for the 10 days later reply

Quote (Belarathon @ Feb 1 2018 04:47am)
What? This message legit makes no sense.

I LLD, I do not HLD. This is the LLD section. Druids do not have FoH. Go back to your cage.



I don't have a Grizzly pelt, but I figure it would die in 1 trap hit anyways?

I originally had a 100% frw setup to vs trappers, but I don't have it anymore and am not interested in hunting down and overpaying for more 5% frw scs, so I'm basically limited to 30-40 frw forever lol.

I guess that makes sense for HLD since you can recast plus have an absorb item, plus they have like 7k life or whatever. I know to stay away with the MB swirl on, however half the time I just feel so helpless that I do it anyways out of kind of an "I give up" attitude. I tried c/ting with them but you'e right it's harder to aim and vs a good trapper usually I would end up just being MB'd instantly after the tele.

I like your last idea, which has been my general strategy (stomp on them, wsg in w/e direction [since they dont tele] shooting nadoes back at them), but honestly most sins will just hold their MB lock the entire time and if we are going to do a blow-for-blow like that, she's going to win. Like I'll lose more life from the full MB lock + trap hits than she will from eating 1-2 nadoes.

e/ can you record videos of you owning some trappers dvt lvl 30 for training purposes ^_^ :unsure: :hail:


You are right, I don't think grizzly is essential.
But it doesn't die in 1 trap iirc but usually when u stomp sin it does. ( same with wolves though and takes more time to recast so might make your aggression a bit more predictable.
Yea I understand why u dont wanna invest in 5 frw scs when its only for 1 matchup but frw is probably the best way to make dvt more balanced.
You both get away faster and have a much easier time dodging trap hits while doing so. I would even consider using some 3 frw scs for dvt 1v1.
I'm sure you agree losing some 200ish life is worth it if it means you survive twice as many encounters anyway.

Sure I can record if I do find any trapper on eu ( not alot 30 trappers there atm ) who dont mind me recording some rounds and playing with east rules for more offensive gameplay^^

Quote (thesnipa @ Feb 1 2018 12:14am)
shocker entirely negates zoo, foh is still not terribly usable but on the corners of the screen u can catch the druid from time to time. basically tho if they stomp one time without zoo on accident because it gets pulsed down without them noticing (easier on dogs because u dont have a health bar to track their hp as easily) and the charger lands a zeal its game over, hotkey over to charge if they're silly enough to tele away for a killing blow.

the key to the matchup is that it somewhat flips the script on who needs to be the aggressor from the druid/phys charger m/u. Charger can't do anything really on the edges of the screen except for predict a stomp, when shocker is on the edge of screen he can never be called for l8z, pulse does almost nothing but any dmg negates l8z. i can just pick between hitting zoo with pulses to oom the druid (takes forEVER versus a good druid, if ever), foh on occasion to peel off cyclone and negate more rep, and pick off oak. mix in a charge with zeal phase here and there after an oak kill, just mix up peeling off most of the time and an aggressive charge. Generally when i peel away after an oak kill their first instinct is to recast oak and zoo, but every once and a while they'll try their hands at a lock. and if that staff is out they're dead.

sol rune and spirit shroud really are killer for the druid, honestly i've thought for a long time that sol runes should be BM in non-runewords. sol es fwall sorc is downright annoying to duel on some builds.


ye I can see why shocker work better than charger in that m/u most of the times.
sol I think would be a bit bm on lld es sorc ye but dno about non es chars, havent tried it out.
But in the same way you can reduce a telenados dmg they can reduce shockers dmg too by adding a fcr ring with repl/mdr and a soe instead of soj + fcr belt.
That much mdr/repl probably cancel out pulse/foh dmg.
Hmm direct nl stomping vs zeal is a classic mistake.
Vs zeal they should tele close but not nl stomp, that way zeal wont reach and spam 1-2 nados and quickly either tele away or swap to block before getting charged.


Quote (TShaman @ Feb 2 2018 06:05am)
Rly Dan? Just Nerf Hej and its all good, no one else plays them :lol:


True there are not many but mine is not the only one.
atm the only others I can only remember 2 other on the top of my head, franks and jogg also got one.
in the past there was some others like perz and carlo & timmy had a share one(?)
And a couple of others that I never dueld.
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Feb 10 2018 01:54pm
i habz 30 trapper, and have no problem being a guinea pig.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 10 2018 01:55pm
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where the 9dex/15 all res jewels at

and a pruby heh

This post was edited by Haseo on Feb 10 2018 02:11pm
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Can anyone do me a favor in 20to 30 mins? I want to get 2 chars rushed so might as well knock it out same time. Need s1 on it
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Quote (Haseo @ Feb 11 2018 12:10pm)
Can anyone do me a favor in 20to 30 mins? I want to get 2 chars rushed so might as well knock it out same time. Need s1 on it


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