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Jan 4 2017 12:45pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Jan 4 2017 11:43am)
So you're saying Americans aren't stupid?



Ha, they are... But he's Russian so he has no room to talk.
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Jan 4 2017 12:51pm
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Ha, they are... But he's Russian so he has no room to talk.


well, he has a valid point. most americans believe that Russia is a country full of drunk idiots with the equivalent of a 3rd grade US education, when in reality its more like 11th grade. Also Russia has many aspects to their legal system that make for less governmental abuse of the population, which makes sense for a society that fell from communism. While some of his statements are hyperbolic in favor of the Motherland they are no more or less factually incorrect than most of the posts i read in this thread. But unlike him, most of the anti-russian posters don't have a personal connection to the subject that forms their perspective. Its mostly fed by western media's viewpoint and leftover sentiment from the cold war.
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Jan 4 2017 12:55pm
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well, he has a valid point. most americans believe that Russia is a country full of drunk idiots with the equivalent of a 3rd grade US education, when in reality its more like 11th grade. Also Russia has many aspects to their legal system that make for less governmental abuse of the population, which makes sense for a society that fell from communism. While some of his statements are hyperbolic in favor of the Motherland they are no more or less factually incorrect than most of the posts i read in this thread. But unlike him, most of the anti-russian posters don't have a personal connection to the subject that forms their perspective. Its mostly fed by western media's viewpoint and leftover sentiment from the cold war.



They are all drunks who ride bears to school... Wouldn't be surprised if grimuad is out getting his bear drunk right now.
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Jan 4 2017 01:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Jan 4 2017 01:26pm)
I'm glad 2016 is over and this spam fest didnit break the sticky lol.

Russia is largely misrepresented in terms of their aims politically, Putin is not the evil person he's portrayed nor is he a saint. He's a ruthless dictator who just happens to have a large mandate because he is doing what is wildly popular and fits the alphamale ideal well enough to be near-worshipped in his country. I mean think about it, russian democracy is a bad joke. all of the elections are fixes and the media is strictly controlled, everyone knows this in the country, and most still support Putin.

But let's not be too cavalier in propping up Russia. They have an objectively worse education system than the US (sorry greg) but are actually more comparable than most US citizens would like to admit when contrasted with leading 1st world nation's like Scandanavia and Japan in terms of educational outcomes. And let's not ignore that the Russian populace has alcoholism and drug use problems that are really incomparable in the first world, the US being a distant second in many categories there. And Russia essentially brokered a deal with China to provide oil at near cost to stop the Russian economy from collapsing. If the sanctions eventually touch that deal Russia will be shot back into a 3rd world country in terms of organization and mandate like they were at the end of the cold war. Only this time their weapons caches they have to get back in black are 20 more years outdated. Which essentially means their only prospective buyers are in the black market, so be prepared to see ISIS outfitted with Iron Curtain era RPGs and ATVs if Russia falls.



some of your facts are right, however some of them are wrong. At least I can argue with you because your are knowledgeable and know something about Russia.
Alcoholism? yes I agree its def a problem, but no more then a problem it is in us. like I said your media only shows what they want to show. I would also agree that there is more alcoholics per capita in Russia then US.
however when it comes to drugs, 75% americans are edicting in one way or other, eather pills or weed. so whats worse alhocolics or druggies?
The election is not fixed, you cant argue that, 75% of the Russian population love putin, and will keep voting for him because he did in 1 year more then Obama did in 8 years. also you can argue about government, when last 3 presidents of us are complete idiots

Obama bush and trump. education system is not worse in Russia, however its harder to earn education because u cant take lones. when it comes to weapons, yes America is much superior in technology, but not by as much as you think. like I said they feed you all of bullshit that they want you to know. the truth about Russia is every male citizen is forced to go to army, to be ready when they are needed. Yes I agree when it comes to weapons Russia is def far back from us. Like I said they only show u what you they want you to know, nothing alse, that means what kind of freedom can you possibly talk about, when everything in the country is fixed even social media that they force feed you with. The sanctions wont do anything to Russia, if anything they will me more negative towards us. What could possibly us restrict from Russia and wise versa? you will remove McDonalds from Russia and burger kings? and Russian population will start eating proper again lol

And avenged, the reason I stoped arguing with you because you cant make 1 valid point, not are you intelligent enough to say something smart. you IQ is about as high as my daughters so I figured there isn't really a need to keep arguing with u.

This post was edited by grimaud on Jan 4 2017 01:54pm
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Jan 4 2017 01:59pm
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some of your facts are right, however some of them are wrong. At least I can argue with you because your are knowledgeable and know something about Russia.
Alcoholism? yes I agree its def a problem, but no more then a problem it is in us. like I said your media only shows what they want to show. I would also agree that there is more alcoholics per capita in Russia then US.
however when it comes to drugs, 75% americans are edicting in one way or other, eather pills or weed. so whats worse alhocolics or druggies?


the rate that matters is the rate of non-functioning addicts, in which Russia byfar exceeds the US. counting every housewife that uses pain pills but still works a 40 hr week isn't really a good metric. Crocodil, heroin, and good ol vodka fuel a larger of the population to be unproductive in Russia than in the US. Although the figures aren't lightyears apart, like i said the US is second, what i didn't say is that behind the US there is another large gap.

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The election is not fixed, you cant argue that, 75% of the Russian population love putin, and will keep voting for him because he did in 1 year more then Obama did in 8 years. also you can argue about government, when last 3 presidents of us are complete idiots


it is fixed though, from counting fraud to the opposition being nothing candidates who never stood a chance to the state run media. Again, the US isn't a shining example of a democratic process, both are bad.

also the education system in average is worse in russia, there are simply too many poor people for this not to be true. also another category where neither excels. like i said above its like a 12th grade to 11th grade comparison.

but overall i don't inform my opinion on Russia from western media or eastern media, i have friends in Russia or the old Iron Curtain that i have spoken at length to about this.
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Jan 4 2017 02:04pm
I'm smarter than you grimuad... In fact the only intelligence you have is the intelligence you self proclaim.., "Americans are stupid I'm smarter than you" is really all you say lol. You dumb Russian.

Your logic for calling some stupid isn't even good.. You call me dumb cause I called your item bad lol... It's like if any one has a different opinion than you then they're dumb in your eyes... Very stereotypical egotistic Russian.

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the rate that matters is the rate of non-functioning addicts, in which Russia byfar exceeds the US. counting every housewife that uses pain pills but still works a 40 hr week isn't really a good metric. Crocodil, heroin, and good ol vodka fuel a larger of the population to be unproductive in Russia than in the US. Although the figures aren't lightyears apart, like i said the US is second, what i didn't say is that behind the US there is another large gap.



it is fixed though, from counting fraud to the opposition being nothing candidates who never stood a chance to the state run media. Again, the US isn't a shining example of a democratic process, both are bad.

also the education system in average is worse in russia, there are simply too many poor people for this not to be true. also another category where neither excels. like i said above its like a 12th grade to 11th grade comparison.

but overall i don't inform my opinion on Russia from western media or eastern media, i have friends in Russia or the old Iron Curtain that i have spoken at length to about this.


like I said you can argue that's its fixed, majority of the people that live outside of Russia would say it is fixed, I can defenatly say that. However if you would go to Russia and ask general population about Putin, they will tell you that they respect him.
would rather have a strong president like putin to lead your country or idiot like Obama? lets face it, we can all argue about it but we all share different opinions about different things. Drugs are bad, regardless if its pills, weed or heroin. If you think that weed is harmless drug, you are 100% correct, physically it doesn't do anything to you, however it makes you stupid and slow to reaction, and eventually will fuck up ur brain. Like I said we are all initialed for opinions, mines comes from living in both countries, yours comes from studying it though books and media. You are knowledgeable about Russia, and at least I can argue with you though. Arguing with avenged is like arguing with 12 year old (no difference)
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Jan 4 2017 02:12pm
Holy novels i doubt anything I read will be funny so I wont get involved just remember grimaud HGH
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Jan 4 2017 02:16pm
Quote (Avenged123 @ Jan 4 2017 03:04pm)
I'm smarter than you grimuad... In fact the only intelligence you have is the intelligence you self proclaim.., "Americans are stupid I'm smarter than you" is really all you say lol. You dumb Russian.

Your logic for calling some stupid isn't even good.. You call me dumb cause I called your item bad lol... It's like if any one has a different opinion than you then they're dumb in your eyes... Very stereotypical egotistic Russian.


you about as intelligent as my 9 year old when she is arguing with me. Snipa actually knows something about Russia when he argues, you just talking out of your ass
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Jan 4 2017 02:19pm
Quote (grimaud @ Jan 4 2017 01:16pm)
you about as intelligent as my 9 year old when she is arguing with me. Snipa actually knows something about Russia when he argues, you just talking out of your ass



I have told no lie about Russia m8... It's trash...
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