My point was: if they have to dump a lot of points into vigor and use frw scs, they have to make actual sacrifices to compete.



Get a ranged attack like foh

This post was edited by lld_mayhem on Aug 6 2020 03:41am

I'm done being rational, you are wrong. IF you seriously believe ANY din build is competetive with any other build without charge you are either lying to yourself or incompetent. Literally wsg on its own > v/t if done right. Jesus christ man.

did i ever dispute that anywhere in the quoted paragraph? you are literally saying i am wrong about something i never even said. i simply disputed a belief that we would have more signups if the popular vote was given their way followed by a suggestion that we give it a try and see if this is true and that if it isnt, then we can just change it back. did you even read what i said the last however many posts i made bro? or were you just quoting and arguing without reading because its the char you want to use?

im really concerned at the iq level of the ppl whove been arguing with me as tho i think vt is broken or something when i have clearly stated a grand total of 9 times in my last 9 posts, that that has nothing to do with what i am saying.

Ye dude as usual you are a fucking genius. Everyone else is dumb. We should suck your cock. LLD legend.

@MADIrishGunner

What's your take on frw being capped on some character builds? (For the c tier tourney)

With out teleport or charge, wouldn't frw need some type of balancing for different builds/characters? (Currently not sure what the rules are or will be for charge and teleport)

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 6 2020 04:50am

capped lld fgoh dmg is like 78x dmg with stacked res its nothing man lol

Banning paladins removes at least 3 entries to the tourney In a tourney with an already limited player base.

This is why no one host tournaments on east. V/T is definitely not the strongest build for this so why is this an issue right now? Because I didn’t do what the poll said? Get over it, I needed zeal like you asked.

This post was edited by IAmAsylum on Aug 6 2020 05:20am

if charge is banned, id say if you were worried about catching ranged chars on din u make a holy fire bow din with the ability to either swap nd smite or swap nd zeal. if there is anyone who could make a din with no charge work id say it'd be you, you've certainly tried more dif din builds in lld than i have.

but thats just dependent on asys final decision since he organized the event. if charge isnt allowed id strongly suggest playing a non pally char this time around because the rule would be there to discourage ppl from playing basic boring dins that see play every single day in tvt nd force them to think outside the box.

but as far as what to do about frw IF charge is banned, i think we'd have to discuss the possible scenarios where a char with high frw has advantage over every other class because if its just about like 1 char being at disadvantage like pally then thats the whole point of the rules is so that no one class is above every other class. i am personally at a loss as to what char is raised above all other chars in this by having no frw cap.

i personally have said in the past that if people want to say hardskill prayer to be able to max vigor is bm then zons should recieve an frw cap, but only IF. and this is regarding like A-S tier style play im not sure frw cap would do much in a c-tier event like this. but then again that could just be because im not thinking of scenarios where frw gives 1 char a clear advantage over any other char thats available.




never said i had an issue with a damn thing once u nerfed zeal fairly. i merely gave thoughts on something that could increase the amount of signups you are talking about. but its ur event and if you want to allow vt then thats up to you man im personally fine with whatever. but generally speaking going with the popular vote on something like this would lead to a larger amount of ppl playing in the event. which is why i suggested giving the rule a try and seeing if it increases the signups or not.

but actually just forget about it cause it already seems like if 3 of the 7 ppl currently signed up are all playing din then shits gonna be mad boring neways and there's nothing we can do about it. ill still play tho once the final rules r set you wont see any devils advocate from me, this was a discussion topic so i was discussing thoughts.


This post was edited by MADIrishGunner on Aug 6 2020 05:33am

F tier next so y’all can play enchant sorcs and bow paladins

What in tarnation is going on?