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Dec 27 2017 07:22pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 27 2017 07:13pm)
i can just give you one :lol:

as to the rules, heres an idea. how about whatever the limit on pets is the limit on bonewalls will be the same.

1 pet, 1 wall. 3 pets, 3 walls. no more than 3 because 4 or 5 walls or pets is a bit silly.

that way a dudu cant swarm an ama, and a nec cant, just for a random example, back into a barrier wall and box in on 3 sides versus a frw barb with only a tiny slot for shooting out bone spirits. not that anyone would ever do that.


i got an idea for a nasty one ;)
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Dec 28 2017 06:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ 28 Dec 2017 02:13)
i can just give you one :lol:

as to the rules, heres an idea. how about whatever the limit on pets is the limit on bonewalls will be the same.

1 pet, 1 wall. 3 pets, 3 walls. no more than 3 because 4 or 5 walls or pets is a bit silly.

that way a dudu cant swarm an ama, and a nec cant, just for a random example, back into a barrier wall and box in on 3 sides versus a frw barb with only a tiny slot for shooting out bone spirits. not that anyone would ever do that.

There already is a limit of 3 walls per screen, i think nec could do with 2 as well. Don't really see the connection between walls and pets though.
On an unrelated note, are you ever dueling on europe? And i met a guy from vancouver in tvts in europe few years back - really nice fellow. Any idea who that might be? Forgot name/jsp nick
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Dec 28 2017 07:14am
Quote (rudipk @ Dec 28 2017 06:45am)
There already is a limit of 3 walls per screen, i think nec could do with 2 as well. Don't really see the connection between walls and pets though.
On an unrelated note, are you ever dueling on europe? And i met a guy from vancouver in tvts in europe few years back - really nice fellow. Any idea who that might be? Forgot name/jsp nick


2 would prevent the 3 wall with border fence box in. it went from 4+ to 3 to prevent this in the first place, usage of a border fence seems to be a loophole rather than legitimate dueling strategy.

not as much of a direct connection as the fact that a 5 zoo druid should 5-0 an ama, and a 3 wall fence boxer nec should 5-0 an frw barb or any frw based melee generally. i'm not generally in favor of the idea of limiting zoo on druid as a rule, but if we're getting to that point of super minor changes for balance why not take out another imbalanced tactic that makes for a skill-less matchup. druid playstyle with full zoo is mostly about patience in a lot of matchups, the tele skills to chainlock and such are just bonus(and what puts guys like dan from tier 2 to tier 1). i think the similar applies to a lot of bonewall tactics for necros, a limit down to 2 would remedy that.

if its a question of the druid versus necro matchup specifically that zoo needs balanced for, get a fire golem wand.

I may be doing some dueling on Euro, havent had time and wont have much moving forward however. real life crazy busy. My best guess as to the Vancouver mystery man is perhaps Muletornado? although i think he's quite a bit east of there in Canada. unless it was Cheeseeatah, he was the nicest of all fellows and was another Canuck.

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2 would prevent the 3 wall with border fence box in. it went from 4+ to 3 to prevent this in the first place, usage of a border fence seems to be a loophole rather than legitimate dueling strategy.

not as much of a direct connection as the fact that a 5 zoo druid should 5-0 an ama, and a 3 wall fence boxer nec should 5-0 an frw barb or any frw based melee generally. i'm not generally in favor of the idea of limiting zoo on druid as a rule, but if we're getting to that point of super minor changes for balance why not take out another imbalanced tactic that makes for a skill-less matchup. druid playstyle with full zoo is mostly about patience in a lot of matchups, the tele skills to chainlock and such are just bonus(and what puts guys like dan from tier 2 to tier 1). i think the similar applies to a lot of bonewall tactics for necros, a limit down to 2 would remedy that.

if its a question of the druid versus necro matchup specifically that zoo needs balanced for, get a fire golem wand.

I may be doing some dueling on Euro, havent had time and wont have much moving forward however. real life crazy busy. My best guess as to the Vancouver mystery man is perhaps Muletornado? although i think he's quite a bit east of there in Canada. unless it was Cheeseeatah, he was the nicest of all fellows and was another Canuck.

There are a number of limiting rules for necro. The lack of the same being true for druid is the case because there simply was no one playing druid at the time.
Walling yourself in is not a viable tactic vs barb, but as i said, necro can make do with 2 walls.
How is fire golem a solution to druid vs nec?
If you ever have some time on your hands, i'd like to see what you're made of :D
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Dec 28 2017 01:30pm
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There are a number of limiting rules for necro. The lack of the same being true for druid is the case because there simply was no one playing druid at the time.
Walling yourself in is not a viable tactic vs barb, but as i said, necro can make do with 2 walls.
How is fire golem a solution to druid vs nec?
If you ever have some time on your hands, i'd like to see what you're made of :D


fire golem cast on yourself pre-stomp explodes killing all dudu pets. something i just learned recently!

as to my skill level, far lower than my knowledge level of the game, even on east ping. there was a time that i competed admirably in east NL ladders, and won east Ladder tourneys. that time has long passed.

ive spent the last few years trying to beat people on non-viable builds for the fun of it. 24 chars pking 30s, 39s pking hlds, holy shocker, poi dagger sin, tele zerk barb, all magic zon, etc

i find that a lot more fun than pure competitive play. but i did enter an east nl tourney and take my fair share of ears on a holy shocker, even managed to scrape a handful of 5-0s in the process
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fire golem cast on yourself pre-stomp explodes killing all dudu pets. something i just learned recently!

as to my skill level, far lower than my knowledge level of the game, even on east ping. there was a time that i competed admirably in east NL ladders, and won east Ladder tourneys. that time has long passed.

ive spent the last few years trying to beat people on non-viable builds for the fun of it. 24 chars pking 30s, 39s pking hlds, holy shocker, poi dagger sin, tele zerk barb, all magic zon, etc

i find that a lot more fun than pure competitive play. but i did enter an east nl tourney and take my fair share of ears on a holy shocker, even managed to scrape a handful of 5-0s in the process


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Dec 28 2017 02:21pm
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Cool


just curious, have you ever posted a video of you losing a match?
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just curious, have you ever posted a video of you losing a match?


Yes
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Yes


i tried to find some but couldnt, only went back so far as 2014 tho
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i tried to find some but couldnt, only went back so far as 2014 tho


There was one of a 3v3 where i get nearly one-hitted by an ama iirc.
Anyway, why do you ask?
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