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I feel like sack's helm, if it had +bo and +nat res would easily beat this one out. Then its 1 socket so 20 ed 6 str 9 dex xx add vs 1 barb\
either way i'm sure this rare one was a premium but its so nice to look at lol

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Is that even possible? 10/10 bro
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5 ideal affixes and 3 perfect staffmods, one being super rare WW. Items these days are ridiculous.


They are lol
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Quote (excellence @ Mar 2 2015 12:47am)
I feel like sack's helm, if it had +bo and +nat res would easily beat this one out. Then its 1 socket so 20 ed 6 str 9 dex xx add vs 1 barb\
either way i'm sure this rare one was a premium but its so nice to look at lol


the time we had w/ priv realms told us the 1 barb 2 soc > 3 soc magic. i didnt do enough with magic vs rare on the 1 barb 2 soc versions though, i'd rather have the available stuff on the rare. 20 hp is kinda bleh when you have that much hp already.
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the time we had w/ priv realms told us the 1 barb 2 soc > 3 soc magic. i didnt do enough with magic vs rare on the 1 barb 2 soc versions though, i'd rather have the available stuff on the rare. 20 hp is kinda bleh when you have that much hp already.


Hmm you may be right. Lets go w/ 100% optimal helm stats you got:

magic - 3 sockets 1 ww 3 bo 3 nat res 80 life
rare 1 - 2 sockets 1 ww 3 bo 3 nat res 60 life 1 barb 30% CR +5 LR/5% bonus AR and some other suffix (lets say 25% PLR)

I consider the 30% CR great, and superior to visionary in every scenario sans bvb. other two are nice to have but not anything game-changing, imo.

Optimal jewel socket for magic - 20% ed/6 str/9 dex/30% CR. CR washes with the rare, you get 15 stats (potentially) for 60 pre-bo life and the slight dmg/ar boost respectively on top of the 20% ed
+1 barb on rare - 5%ed/8% ar from mastery point w/ possible 1% more crit, 1% frw from increased speed, 3-5% resist all from natty resistance depending on skill level, 3% more life from bo (assuming no prebuff helm)

They're really close, i still think Sack's helm with those 3 staffmods would be preferable, w/out too much # crunching.
But i'm probably way wrong :p
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Mar 4 2015 12:55am
I thought 3 sock/80 life/3ww 3 nat res 3 inc speed is best baba helm ever :O

+1 baba/random res mods vs 20 life 1 open socket no?
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Quote (meegz1 @ Mar 4 2015 12:55am)
the time we had w/ priv realms told us the 1 barb 2 soc > 3 soc magic. i didnt do enough with magic vs rare on the 1 barb 2 soc versions though, i'd rather have the available stuff on the rare. 20 hp is kinda bleh when you have that much hp already.


20ed>1barb as far as damage goes. I dunno where your decision making is coming from but merely comparing my helm to a perfect 1barb 3ww 80life 2os- like 200ar, 1% inc speed, and 2 all res does not beat the extra damage and up to 130 bo'd life displaced off the extra jewel

Helms aside, choosing not to prebuff your barb costs you a good amount of life and a skill point used in BC.. Bo on helm is nice for fun duels.. Taking 17 seconds out of your life before a duel to add 500life/100mana and save a skill point for inc speed is nicer.

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Quote (excellence @ Mar 4 2015 01:24am)
Hmm you may be right. Lets go w/ 100% optimal helm stats you got:

magic - 3 sockets 1 ww 3 bo 3 nat res 80 life
rare 1 - 2 sockets 1 ww 3 bo 3 nat res 60 life 1 barb 30% CR +5 LR/5% bonus AR and some other suffix (lets say 25% PLR)

I consider the 30% CR great, and superior to visionary in every scenario sans bvb. other two are nice to have but not anything game-changing, imo.

Optimal jewel socket for magic - 20% ed/6 str/9 dex/30% CR. CR washes with the rare, you get 15 stats (potentially) for 60 pre-bo life and the slight dmg/ar boost respectively on top of the 20% ed
+1 barb on rare - 5%ed/8% ar from mastery point w/ possible 1% more crit, 1% frw from increased speed, 3-5% resist all from natty resistance depending on skill level, 3% more life from bo (assuming no prebuff helm)

They're really close, i still think Sack's helm with those 3 staffmods would be preferable, w/out too much # crunching.
But i'm probably way wrong :p


The cold res on that rare isn't even base
Prefixes are as follows:
1barb
2os
Enhanced defense.

You're just looking at a 1barb 3ww 2os with enough fhr to ALMOST make it as good as its magic 2os counterpart. It just costed a lotttttttttttt more lol

*best barb helm hands down for a tele bvc which is the best version of a ww barb v all.. Is
3os 80life 3ww 3inc speed (+3Natty res OR something else only of you nail an all res mod across your jewels)
3x 20ed 6str 9dex jewels with a 30CR mod and whatever else helps ur char.. Likely just pick 8life,60ar, 10all, or xxDtm

This post was edited by SackShadow on Mar 4 2015 09:07am
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Mar 4 2015 09:42am
i knew that post was going to put on some hatred.
salute to those who think i actually paid real money for it. maybe you did for other stuff posted here, but i didnt.
in fact i was pmd about it and couldnt resist buying.

the sad part is, people are spamming the trophy room and degrading the helmet right now (You're just looking at a 1barb 3ww 2os with enough fhr to ALMOST make it as good as its magic 2os counterpart).
my 2 cents: you can always discuss it, but maybe not here. if youre comparing it to that 3ww/7xlife/3sock one thats fine. i know which helmet id pick anytime.
i dont prebuff except 2nd slot too, as i actually want to play and not switch pixels to get 70 ish life+1skill more.

telestaff on barb is against the ruleset on europe. has been discussed lately and people wouldnt see a reason for it sadly.

here are two amus which might not be trophies for themselves. i havent come across any others yet:


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