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Aug 30 2019 12:26pm
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 02:05pm)
Hmm is that a challange? Make a V/t hmmm?? No?Wonder why.... :rofl:


I've played them before. They're boring and shitty.

I'm not buying fg to participate in a 3 man ladder with 0 good players.
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Aug 30 2019 12:28pm
Quote (QueeF @ Aug 30 2019 02:11pm)
Yeah I was jk , I suck on him though also got no idea how to stat. My gear is disgusting though still need to get ahold of some 10/10's :*(


Just use a flail or 3os amp scepter until you get your 10/10s lol
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Aug 30 2019 12:33pm
Quote (Markhor @ Aug 30 2019 02:28pm)
Just use a flail or 3os amp scepter until you get your 10/10s lol


Im doin that but I wanna use my +2 P combat / +3 fant amp 2 os scepter and ive been having to use bloodfist till I find those 10/10's lol
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Aug 30 2019 12:34pm
Quote (Markhor @ Aug 30 2019 02:25pm)
So you limit it.

Charge only used for mobility. Not as a primary attack. Over use of charger locking/attack results in auto loss.

A pure foh in LLD will do slightly more than a vtpk, barely. Vs. This class, the res cap could be increased or limit foh dmg for this or dont. I dont think itll make a difference.

When you sign up for the ladder, announce build, playstyle. Intentions, etc so everyone knows and can counter around it.

6 sol max. This is allows for gear swapping between pcrown and circ for helm and lifer and vmagi. (5 on vmagi/rockfleece circ barbed, 5 on pcrown, lifer, barbed, 6 on circ, lifer, barbed). Allows for personal playstyle, changes in between matches, etc.

Ladders are design see who the best player. Piloting skills and gear. Vtpk really doesnt have any gear advantage.


tbh it just comes down to setup. smite and foh are only mechanically complicated skills if you're adding teleport to the mix, and then only barely. There's a reason that even on the hld vtpk ladder the best players aren't always in the #1 slot.
unless these guys have been eating paint chips skill should not be a factor at all

anyone who builds around smite/dr automatically loses to anyone who runs extra frw + higher foh damage since under your suggestions it will no longer be possible for them to take physical damage
the foh-centered builds might lose to a mdr+rep build but that's a close call. I'm not entirely sure whether the extra 10 rep/foh damage from going 1 pally over 2 offensive is worth it

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Aug 30 2019 12:40pm
can anyone correct my perf LLD foh dmg?

if it's 515, limiting it to 500, after .17 pvp and .35 res leaves it at 1.6 pvp dmg.

why limit it at all if it's a limit of 2 dmg per foh?
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Aug 30 2019 12:43pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 30 2019 11:40am)
can anyone correct my perf LLD foh dmg?

if it's 515, limiting it to 500, after .17 pvp and .35 res leaves it at 1.6 pvp dmg.

why limit it at all if it's a limit of 2 dmg per foh?



Cause danzeva wants it to be walk smite.
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Aug 30 2019 12:44pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Aug 30 2019 02:40pm)
can anyone correct my perf LLD foh dmg?

if it's 515, limiting it to 500, after .17 pvp and .35 res leaves it at 1.6 pvp dmg.

why limit it at all if it's a limit of 2 dmg per foh?


515 damage is 38 damage after 28 mdr and 35% light res
500 damage is 37 damage after 28 mdr and 35% light res

So, correction, it's a difference of 1 damage
The limited build will have higher -elr anyway so it comes out to higher damage :rofl:

This post was edited by Worrywart on Aug 30 2019 12:46pm
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Aug 30 2019 01:20pm
Quote (Worrywart @ Aug 30 2019 12:44pm)
515 damage is 38 damage after 28 mdr and 35% light res
500 damage is 37 damage after 28 mdr and 35% light res

So, correction, it's a difference of 1 damage
The limited build will have higher -elr anyway so it comes out to higher damage :rofl:


Are you guys including conviction? :blink:
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Aug 30 2019 01:27pm
Quote (SuperButt420 @ Aug 30 2019 12:26pm)
I've played them before. They're boring and shitty.

I'm not buying fg to participate in a 3 man ladder with 0 good players.


I'll make a guest account for vt(eventually), then may be some of you doods can participate?

All these excuses just sound like dodge scripts to me lol.

And I'm considered a C- duelist at best with in the ranks of our V/t players. Yet I'm sure I'd best you :rofl:

Did you read the warning sign sir?

This post was edited by danzeva on Aug 30 2019 01:28pm
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Aug 30 2019 01:29pm
Quote (danzeva @ Aug 30 2019 02:20pm)
Are you guys including conviction? :blink:


You can cancel conviction without stacking anyways
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